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Old November 30th, 2017, 04:13 PM   #41
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(smile) Ainchu jus all tough and shit? Fact is you have no idea what you are talking about, but then you rarely do. Nobody is coming for my guns, no Gov entity. That hurts your feelers doesn't it.
You are correct. Nobody is coming for your guns.

And if you don't get caught with an AR 15 in Sandy Hook, or many other jurisdictions across the country, or get caught carrying a firearm of any type whether concealed or openly in any jurisdiction that prohibits it, and has the Supreme Courts blessing to prohibit it, nobody will ever come for your guns.

See how easy that is?
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Old November 30th, 2017, 04:21 PM   #42
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You are correct. Nobody is coming for your guns.

And if you don't get caught with an AR 15 in Sandy Hook, or many other jurisdictions across the country, or get caught carrying a firearm of any type whether concealed or openly in any jurisdiction that prohibits it, and has the Supreme Courts blessing to prohibit it, nobody will ever come for your guns.

See how easy that is?
I use my 15 for squirrels and Rabbits does that frighten you?
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Old November 30th, 2017, 04:23 PM   #43
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How about militia purposes, defending our nation from invasion? How about revolution purposes, like what was done to found the United States of America?

Maybe people simply don't want to become vulnerable to enslavement or genocide.



Gosh. I thought we had a military for stuff like that.

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Old November 30th, 2017, 04:25 PM   #44
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/322fe4d...-amend.-by.htm

Maybe SCOTUS recognizes that certain weapons can be regulated via the state as the 1689 EBoR states: "That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law".
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Thanks for posting this. To borrow a term from former Vice President Joe Biden "This is a big fucking deal".

This just put to rest the interpretation of the language in the Heller decision, to allow the states to absolutely define Ar 15 and AK 47 style rifles as dangerous and unusual weapons, and can prohibit their sale or possession.

It also destroys the wet dream of gun nut America, that a law can be passed by Congress allowing for reciprocal agreement between the states to recognize concealed carry permits issued in any state, that would force all states to recognize them.

Not any more they don't. In fact you can now expect your concealed carry permit to face even more restrictions.

As you can see by some responses, or the lack thereof, that the ammosexuals are in total denial, and still believe their second amendment rights come with no restrictions.


Just a reminder of the majority opinion issued by Antonin Scalia in the Heller decision.

On pp. 54 and 55, the majority opinion, written by conservative bastion Justice Antonin Scalia, states: “Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited…”. It is “…not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

“Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”

“We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. Miller (an earlier case) said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those “in common use at the time”. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’ ”

The court even recognizes a long-standing judicial precedent “…to consider… prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons.”
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It explains everything.
It might only explain historical footnote stuff. Other than that it's just superficial or peripheral stuff.

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Where do you think your right to own a weapon comes from?
I think everyone's right to keep and bear arms, as well as to own a weapon (or many weapons), are an inalienable, self evident truth. Some might argue that they are endowed by our Creator; I'm not religious, so I don't say things such as "our rights come from God", but I do agree with that general sentiment.

All the US Constitution does is essentially articulate the acknowledgement of that. It's essentially a contract between We the People collectively and those who serve in government that they're not going to infringe on those "God given" rights.

Now you tell me, where do you think our right to own a weapon comes from?
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Correct, Colt came out with the CAR-15 and they were sold to the military into the 70's, which is what I carried in the Army as a Combat Engineer in the 80's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAR-15
I'm a lot older than you. Joined the Marines in 1968, was issued an M-14 in boot camp. I was in one of the last training platoons to go completely through basic with an M-14. Now THAT is a fucking GREAT rifle!!!
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I'm a lot older than you. Joined the Marines in 1968, was issued an M-14 in boot camp. I was in one of the last training platoons to go completely through basic with an M-14. Now THAT is a fucking GREAT rifle!!!
I think that's the same time my dad joined the Marines. It's possible you two were in boot camp together or knew each other elsewhere.
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I use my 15 for squirrels and Rabbits does that frighten you?
Why in the fuck would you do that?
I use as Ruger 10/22 for that and it works just fine. OK, my eyesight is not as good as it once was do now I use a 12 gauge Mossberg for the rabbits.
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I think that's the same time my dad joined the Marines. It's possible you two were in boot camp together or knew each other elsewhere.
Did your dad go to P.I or San Diego? I arrived June 3, 1968.
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Did your dad go to P.I or San Diego? I arrived June 3, 1968.
I don't know the date, but it was P.I.
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