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Old February 14th, 2018, 06:21 PM   #1
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Exclamation Rep. Massie (KY) repeal of federal gun free school zones act

If you give a damn about yet another case of children being massacred in their schools & you realize this is too much, then you may want to take action to bring an end to what makes it easy today to slaughter schoolchildren like fish in a barrel, and this would be the Federal Gun-free School Zones Act. This despicable act is what's responsible for tying law-abiding citizens' hands and preventing them from being recognized as being legally armed (contrary to the 2nd Amendment) when they're in school zones.

Right now, the average person cannot be armed and take the opportunity to protect anyone in schools when such a need arises.

Now that we have a track record of such incidents, any monster who wants to carry out such a mass shooting again knows they have excellent odds of being able to successfully mow down many children, teachers, other school staff, and legitimate visitors because of the proven & demonstrated lack of the necessary capability & threat that would be able to put a stop to them, or maybe even deterring them from so much as contemplating doing such a thing.

Congressman Thomas Massie of Kentucky has reintroduced a bill (originally introduced by Ron Paul) to get rid of that act which has done nothing but help produce horrific results:
https://massie.house.gov/newsroom/pr...deral-gun-free

Help Rep. Massie get this bill passed by contacting your representative and DEMANDING that they vote to pass it now!

Here's how you can find out who your representative is:
https://www.house.gov/representative...representative
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Or we could ban guns, that actually worked in Australia.

But a couple of dozen dead kids won't generate the political will to amend the constitution.

Let's just move on
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Or we could ban guns, that actually worked in Australia.

But a couple of dozen dead kids won't generate the political will to amend the constitution.

Let's just move on
Wrong; more mass shootings have occurred in Australia after the 1996 incident, laws & buyback they had.

Gun bans have been very helpful to those who have committed genocide.

1.5 million children were murdered by NAZI Germany.

How many millions of Holodomor victims were children & how many children were victims in the Cambodian, Kazakh, Rwandan, Serbian, etc. genocides?

Broad gun bans result in the deaths of millions of children.

Gun free school zones are localized gun bans that result in the deaths of a couple dozen kids.

The less there is of gun bans the better it is for the lives of children.
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Or we could ban guns, that actually worked in Australia.

But a couple of dozen dead kids won't generate the political will to amend the constitution.

Let's just move on
Would you stack up on the door to go in and get those guns? Want to enjoy running from cover to cover every time you step outside your door? Just dying for a civil war huh
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The policy of the school system in my city (Memphis/Shelby County) is that there is a school police officer on duty in the school as part of staff. Our school policeman had the rank of Sargeant and was called by us kids as "Sarge". I wish I could remember if they were armed or not, but we had an officer there. Made sense, our school had 2000 kids and a 2000 person town usually had a Sheriff.

Not much can be done about guns. America is a nation that allows them. Most interpretations of the Second Amendment states that people have the right to keep and bear arms. Should America do away with that, like Australia did? If law abiding people were not allowed to be armed, only criminals will have guns. Pot is illegal where I live, but I get pot, no issue. Laws do not keep people from acquiring what they want or doing what they want.

My hometown of Memphis has a lot of violent crime. My solution is basically that most everyone have a weapon, know how to use it and be able to use it if trouble comes. Sounds Dodge City, but there it is. Back to my old school, they have a strict no gun on campus policy by anyone, obviously students but faculty also. If I were a teacher, I would want a small .22 caliber weapon for protection, especially if I were a woman. Violence happens, kids go crazy and I should have the right to defend myself. If I lived in Memphis, I probably would own a .22. Hope to never use it except to shoot at beer cans and crows, but there it is. Guns are a tool. My elderly father carries his gun, dont fuck with grandpa.

Like I said, not much can be done about guns or violence. If something can be done, please tell me.
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Would you stack up on the door to go in and get those guns? Want to enjoy running from cover to cover every time you step outside your door? Just dying for a civil war huh
No, I'd have the SWAT teams take out the gun owners who refused to surrender arms. Waco baby, Waco!
Those are nut cakes that society is better off without.

But the First thing is to get rid of the Second Amendment.
We got rid of the 18th Amendment, all we need is the political motivation.
It's just a political exercise.
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No, I'd have the SWAT teams take out the gun owners who refused to surrender arms. Waco baby, Waco!
Those are nut cakes that society is better off without.

But the First thing is to get rid of the Second Amendment.
We got rid of the 18th Amendment, all we need is the political motivation.
It's just a political exercise.
So let me just get this straight...you want to dress up special, selected citizens in costumes arm them and then send them in after other citizens to take away their property?

That about sum it up?

How are you planning on selecting these special people?


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I like how you not only mentioned waco but gloatednin the outcome of that tragedy. Very telling.

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So let me just get this straight...you want to dress up special, selected citizens in costumes arm them and then send them in after other citizens to take away their property?

That about sum it up?

How are you planning on selecting these special people?


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I like how you not only mentioned waco but gloatednin the outcome of that tragedy. Very telling.
First I want to outlaw guns. It's a political agenda.

If people turn in their guns they are law abiding citizens, if they don't, they are criminals
And we have law enforcement to deal with that.

No religious sects engaging in armed rebellion since Waco, it was very effective.
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No, I'd have the SWAT teams take out the gun owners who refused to surrender arms. Waco baby, Waco!
Those are nut cakes that society is better off without.

But the First thing is to get rid of the Second Amendment.
We got rid of the 18th Amendment, all we need is the political motivation.
It's just a political exercise.
Interesting you mention the 18th amendment. Trying to get rid of guns, of which there are currently more than 300 million in the country would be just as ineffective as trying to stop alcohol. It would just make every gun currently in the country 5 or 10 times more valuable than they currently are. Not to mention with gun prices so high hundreds if not thousands of people would suddenly engage in illegal arms sales. You think the people running alcohol were violent ?? You think the people currently running drugs are ruthless ?? Just wait to you see what happens when they start running guns !!!

Drugs are illegal. We spend something like $10 BILLION dollars a year fighting the "war on drugs" yet the sad truth is, on a good year, we only interdict about 2% of the drugs flowing into the country.

What makes you think the government will be any more successful trying to stop guns, than it was with alcohol or currently is with drugs ???
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Interesting you mention the 18th amendment. Trying to get rid of guns, of which there are currently more than 300 million in the country would be just as ineffective as trying to stop alcohol. It would just make every gun currently in the country 5 or 10 times more valuable than they currently are. Not to mention with gun prices so high hundreds if not thousands of people would suddenly engage in illegal arms sales. You think the people running alcohol were violent ?? You think the people currently running drugs are ruthless ?? Just wait to you see what happens when they start running guns !!!

Drugs are illegal. We spend something like $10 BILLION dollars a year fighting the "war on drugs" yet the sad truth is, on a good year, we only interdict about 2% of the drugs flowing into the country.

What makes you think the government will be any more successful trying to stop guns, than it was with alcohol or currently is with drugs ???
I'm just pointing out that it's possible to amend the constitution.
Stopping guns is possible, it's been done, in most of the first world.
Eventually it will happen here, it may take another 10,000 dead kids, but it will happen.
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