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Old March 31st, 2018, 11:24 AM   #21
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Gotta wonder why so many are for more school shootings by not arming people in the schools.
@Mike, others, etc.

It amazes me that the same people who argue 9/11, Middle East hatred/violence toward the West/US, etc. is at least partly predicated on Foreign Policy abuses by the West (i.e. unintended 'blowback'), do not take a similar stance as it relates to school shootings, but rather scapegoat the choice weapon of violence as the root cause. That is, does anyone doubt that (most) of these kids lives were made into a 'living Hell' by their peers, other people, etc. through bullying, extreme social rejection, etc. such as they often explicitly claim? If not, why do you doubt it--on what evidence(?) If so, why is not being addressed, sufficiently--but made peripheral(?) Attempt to explain how the two concepts are not related; if that is your position.

Note: When I say it 'amazes me...', I know why this happens (and it is unsurprising)--I am just asking for people to remain logically consistent and stand by their own claimed views/principles.
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Old March 31st, 2018, 11:25 AM   #22
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In the past month or so we've had armed guards at schools where large numbers of students were shot. The armed guards had no effect on the death toll.
We've had one of the few armed teachers accidentally shooting students.

The facts don't support the hypothesis.

What actually works to reduce mass shootings, is the banning of semi automatic weapons.

We move at the speed of our slowest citizen,you have to accept that we all give something up when somebody ruins it by doing something stupid.
That's why we have speed limits,because Harry was driving too fast and killed a family, Thanks Harry......
False. In Maryland an arm guard shot a student with a gun. The ones you are talking about were hiding until the shooting stopped.
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Old March 31st, 2018, 11:33 AM   #23
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What civilized country has the greatest number of deaths by guns?

The US

What civilized country has the greatest per capita of guns?

The US


So let me make sure I understand your logic.

You want REDUCE the number of people killed by guns by introducing MORE guns?
Did you just call 30 countries "shitholes"?
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Old March 31st, 2018, 11:34 AM   #24
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Great deflection job.
It's deflection to ask for evidence of a posts accuracy???
Don't talk foolishness. You're demeaning your own intelligence.
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Old March 31st, 2018, 11:42 AM   #25
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It's deflection to ask for evidence of a posts accuracy???
Don't talk foolishness. You're demeaning your own intelligence.
But that's not what you did. Why do you lie?
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But that's not what you did. Why do you lie?
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False. In Maryland an arm guard shot a student with a gun. The ones you are talking about were hiding until the shooting stopped.
What did I say?
We had armed guards at mass shootings, the shooter knew they were there, it didn't stop the shooting.

And we've had teachers with guns, accidentally shooting students.

Good guys with guns don't stop bad guys with guns.

What stops mass shootings is banning semi automatic weapons.
That's what really works.
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Redundant. We have too many gun threads as it is.
Lol. How many trump/threads have you yourself started especially ones regarding his sex life that seems to be of special interest to you? Russia.

You are special.
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The Security company I used to work for had a number of employees certified to carry a handgun on the job, and did such in many events (quite a few guards were off-duty cops, ex-military, etc.). However, for School detail, even though our company was contracted to do Middle Schools, High Schools, ect., guards were required to be unarmed for those shifts due to School policy--then, a lot of High Schools already have unarmed Security. All that would be required is to allow such certified guards to have the same standard as elsewhere. Of course, the issue then becomes; do we trust the authority figures with the lethal weapons?
Give me a private contractor over a government employee any day of the week.
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