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Old March 29th, 2016, 03:58 AM   #51
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That's a gross exaggeration.
The figure of 50% comes from the book, At Home, A Short History Of Private Life, by Bill Bryson and the figure is from birth to age 21

These are the figures for child mortality up to the age of 5
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it puts the average for child mortality before the age of 5 at 43% in 1800
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The figure of 50% comes from the book, At Home, A Short History Of Private Life, and the figure is from birth to age 21

These are the figures for child mortality up to the age of 5
Understanding Your Ancestors: Western European Ancestors: Demographics: Death and Illness

Child Mortality ? Our World in Data

it puts the average for child mortality before the age of 5 at 43% in 1800
You are a smart man showing facts and figures without restraint. I congratulate you for your boldness.

edit: I meant my statement in the highest regard to you and please don't take it any other way.

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You are a smart man showing facts and figures without restraint. I congratulate you for your boldness.
Often you will find that "facts" are provided by the same entity who benefits by their distortion.
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Often you will find that "facts" are provided by the same entity who benefits by their distortion.
MichaelT has a college education and suspect that he might be a professor at Oxford.
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Often you will find that "facts" are provided by the same entity who benefits by their distortion.
The fact that common childhood illnesses killed millions of children before vaccines came into use is not open to question, and the fact that vaccines have saved millions of children's lives since then is equally without question.

ps: it should also be noted that in Third World areas where vaccines are not available these common illnesses still kill large numbers of children.
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I wish
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I am just a dumb and stupid hillbelly born and bred in Ohio with a High School education. Your writing is eloquent to say in the least and I flatter nobody.
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MichaelT has a college education and suspect that he might be a professor at Oxford.
I'm impressed with the memory of teachers and professors. But let's not forget that theirs is a task of memorization and repetition, not questioning authority.

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The fact that common childhood illnesses killed millions of children before vaccines came into use is not open to question, and the fact that vaccines have saved millions of children's lives since then is equally without question.
That is not what is being questioned.
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I'm impressed with the memory of teachers and professors. But let's not forget that theirs is a task of memorization and repetition, not questioning authority.

That is not what is being questioned.
Bring back teaching by rote will solve a lot of problems in today's society. Both of my parents were public school teachers and the closest I came to that was a Navy Radar Instructor.
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Bring back teaching by rote will solve a lot of problems in today's society. Both of my parents were public school teachers and the closest I came to that was a Navy Radar Instructor.
I had to look up that word.

I don't think that would solve anything.
Students need to learn how to use logic. Unfortunately 90% of them simply don't have the capacity for it. It would be beneficial if they at least tried to develop that ability in those other 10%.

In the war against truth, one must not only tell intelligent people they're stupid, but also tell stupid people they're intelligent. Equating memory to intellect is just that. If the illogical brainwashed masses think they're smart and given a degree which attests to that notion, they won't listen to the reasoning of their superiors.



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What Is Rote Learning? Memory Vs. Intelligence

Rote learning is the memorization of information based on repetition. The two biggest examples of rote learning are the alphabet and numbers. Slightly more complicated examples include multiplication tables and spelling words. At the high school level, the elements and their chemical numbers must be memorized by rote. Many times, teachers use rote learning without even realizing they do so.

Is rote learning an outdated technique or is there a valid place for its use in the classroom today? Increasingly, rote learning is being abandoned for newer techniques such as associative learning, meta cognition, and critical thinking instead of being used as a functional foundation to higher levels of learning.

It’s always useful to apply meaningful relationships to basic skills. At the end of the day, however, rote learning plays a bigger role than most teachers would like to recognize in today’s learning climate.
The difference between memory and intelligence

The mental ability to memorize is often used as an indicator of intelligence. No doubt, the two are strongly linked, but memory is not always a reliable indicator of intelligence. Working memory does not directly affect the level of intelligence of a student.

Most of the time, a deficit in working memory is due to the structure of learning. Think of working memory as a filing cabinet. If each piece of information has a separate file, finding the information becomes difficult. If factors such as stress, lack of sleep, and distractions are involved, finding the information is even harder. Instead, effective memorization involves categorization of the information and sections within sections of the filing cabinet.

Memory is not a strong indicator of intelligence. Instead, it is linked to interaction of environmental factors and training.
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