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Old March 29th, 2016, 02:41 PM   #61
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That is not what is being questioned.
If some people are not questioning the effectiveness of vaccines in saving lives, why is the title of the thread "Vaccines are poison".
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If some people are not questioning the effectiveness of vaccines in saving lives, why is the title of the thread "Vaccines are poison".
The question is not whether vaccines can save lives, but whether vaccines are harmful.

How does injecting mercury into perfectly healthy children save their lives?
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I am just a dumb and stupid hillbelly born and bred in Ohio with a High School education. Your writing is eloquent to say in the least and I flatter nobody.
I have less than that. Don't sell yourself short, it's unbecoming and honestly pathetic.
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The question is not whether vaccines can save lives, but whether vaccines are harmful.

How does injecting mercury into perfectly healthy children save their lives?
if we don't vaccinate our children the risk of them dying from a common illness is hundreds of thousands of times greater than if the claimed but unproven dangers were true.
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if we don't vaccinate our children the risk of them dying from a common illness is hundreds of thousands of times greater than if the claimed but unproven dangers were true.
"hundreds of thousands"? Do you deny that vaccines contain mercury?
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"hundreds of thousands"? Do you deny that vaccines contain mercury?
Ever given your children aspirin?
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I am just a dumb and stupid hillbelly born and bred in Ohio with a High School education. Your writing is eloquent to say in the least and I flatter nobody.
Is a 'hillbelly' the same thing as a beer belly?
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Do you deny that vaccines contain mercury?
No.
Some do contain a trace of a mercury compound, but a lot don't.
However, if you want to stop mercury entering your body I suggest you stop eating food immediately, especially fish, as a large variety of foodstuffs contain mercury and the amount that enters your body this way is far far in excess of any that enters through vaccines.
Foods Containing Mercury | Healthy Eating | SF Gate
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The figure of 50% comes from the book, At Home, A Short History Of Private Life, by Bill Bryson and the figure is from birth to age 21

These are the figures for child mortality up to the age of 5
Understanding Your Ancestors: Western European Ancestors: Demographics: Death and Illness

Child Mortality ? Our World in Data

it puts the average for child mortality before the age of 5 at 43% in 1800
That's true, but vaccines have played only a part in reducing infant and child mortality, and of course medicine encourages the subliminal "given" is that a healthy immune system is incapable of handling certain pathogens.

The "given" encourages fear, and fear disables the immune system, so in some ways "scientific medicine" creates what it seeks to prevent or cure. From your link:
For example, in the mid nineteenth century, between seventeen percent (in Sweden) and nearly thirty percent (in Germany) of infants died before their first birthday. Although death rates slowed after the first year, children and young adults still died at high rates. In fact, in the mid 1800s, life expectancies were only in the high thirties or early forties. Despite this, some people, of course, did live to be quite old.
The lack of breastfeeding, the overall ignorance of good nutrition and the lack of access to it, the perils of childbirth, the absence of antibiotics, the prevalence of epidemics, and abysmal sanitary practices, all these affected infant and child mortality, and mortality in general. Again from your link:
However, most historians feel that improvements in living conditions, particularly improvements in the diets of the lower class, may have had an even greater impact. Improved nutrition kept people healthier. The introduction of the potato helped lengthen life spans. The potato provided peasants with a cheap, healthy, mostly dependable food that became a staple in many of their diets. In addition, more knowledge about hygiene and public sanitation lowered death rates, especially in the cities.
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Yes.No.
Some do contain a trace of a mercury compound, but a lot don't.
However, if you want to stop mercury entering your body I suggest you stop eating food immediately, especially fish, as a large variety of foodstuffs contain mercury and the amount that enters your body this way is far far in excess of any that enters through vaccines.
Foods Containing Mercury | Healthy Eating | SF Gate
The facts surrounding the discovery, introduction and use of Thimerosal are not reassuring whatsoever. Understand that the addition of Thimerosal was economically based, for multi-dose, multi-use vials.

Take a look, please: TRACE AMOUNTS ? the documentary on mercury and its role in the autism epidemic ? ?Ten Lies? Told About Mercury in Vaccines
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