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Old July 7th, 2016, 11:27 PM   #1
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New Study Has Big Pharma Terrified — As Pot is Legalized, Pill Sales Plummet

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For decades the pharmaceutical industry has poured millions into the pockets of corrupt politicians as they lobbied to keep cannabis illegal. A new study from the University of Georgia shows exactly why all that money was spent. Legal marijuana destroys big pharma’s profits.

The study examined the costs of Medicare’s prescription drug benefit program in 2013, a year when only 17 states and the District of Columbia had legalized medicinal marijuana. They found that legal pot contributed to a savings of $165.2 million in prescription costs. Researchers at the University of Georgia used those number to determine a savings in the hundreds of millions if all states would legalize medical cannabis.

According to the study, compared to Medicare Part D’s 2013 budget of $103 billion, those savings would have been 0.5 percent. But it’s enough of a difference to show that, in states where medicinal marijuana is legal, some people are turning to the drug as an alternative to prescription medications for ailments that range from pain to sleep disorders.

“The results suggest people are really using marijuana as medicine and not just using it for recreational purposes,” said the study’s lead author Ashley Bradford, who completed her bachelor’s degree in sociology in May and will start her master’s degree in public administration at UGA this fall.

The estimated savings are likely far higher as the study narrowed down the results to only include conditions for which marijuana might serve as an alternative treatment, selecting nine categories in which the Food and Drug Administration had already approved at least one medication. These were anxiety, depression, glaucoma, nausea, pain, psychosis, seizures, sleep disorders and spasticity.
The study also brought up the lack of availability in states with legal medical pot. Patients, according to the study, can’t walk up to their neighborhood pharmacy to pick up a marijuana prescription; they have to either go to a dispensary or grow it themselves—and the legality of having marijuana plants differs by state.

If marijuana was as readily available as say, Prozak, one could imagine the damage it would do to Big Pharma.

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Old July 7th, 2016, 11:31 PM   #2
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The survey of 473 adult therapeutic cannabis users found that 87% of respondents gave up prescription medications, alcohol, or other drugs in favor of cannabis. Adults under 40 were likely to give up all three of these for medical cannabis.

The most startling revelation, and one that will have Big Pharma running to their crony lawmakers, is that 80% of respondents reported substituting cannabis for prescription drugs.

In addition, 52% said they substituted cannabis for alcohol and 32% said they substituted it for illicit substances. These results indicate a very promising trend of people moving away from dangerously addictive and deadly substances in favor of a miracle plant that has never caused an overdose death.

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Funny Prozac has been mentioned, because basically this is what I use marijuana for. It really relieves my anxiety and stress. I am going through some stress and pot does help a lot.

Is marijuana that great of a painkiller? I have used the substance on and off for over 30 years and to me it is not much of a pain reliever, not even for hangovers or basic pains and aches. I knew a guy who made powerful pot brownies. There is such a thing as being "too high". It wasn't fun, I was paranoid, sweaty, feeling "out of myself“ if that makes sense. Same as liquor. I love liquor. I can drink a bottle of good likker over a night, bu drinking four bottles will make me sick. The concept of "too much of something good". I think there is a THC product that does relieve pain but doesn't get someone stoned. Dunno.

If I were from a state where medical dope was legal, I would do whatever I could to access the product legally, and I do not know if psychiatric illnesses qualify. I am not mentally ill, but I do drink, talk to myself and occasionally have fits. So, Dr. Feelgood can give me some weed. "Here is the one called Dr. Feelgood....he's the one who makes you feel alright, he will be your Frankenstien!"
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Well duuuuh, who's going to take drugs like Prozac and so forth if they can just fire up a doobie they grew in their back yard?
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I was prescribed a handful of drugs after my last hospital adventure, eight days that cost almost $50K btw.

The prescribed prednisone, a steroid, fragmented my sleep patterns. I'd wake up at 3:30 a.m., and that would be it. Or I'd wake up at 5 a.m., get up, have breakfast, and fall back asleep afterwards. Or, I couldn't fall asleep until 2:30, but I'd wake up at 6.

Maybe the average person doesn't know that different strains of cannabis have different properties. In the most general sense, there are daytime and nighttime strains, roughly the difference between sativa and indica species. Within those species, and hybrids between the two, strains are further characterized according to their properties.

If you're curious, you can explore the hundreds of varieties here: https://www.leafly.com/explore

Anyway, I went to my favorite recreational dispensary, and purchased two indica dominant strains known for their relaxing effects, 3.5 grams of each, $54 total. Now, I vape a very small amount late in the evening, an hour or so before bed. I sleep through the night, wake up clear-headed, refreshed.

Those 7 grams of cannabis will last half a year or longer. How much would I be spending on six months of pharmaceutical "sleep aids?"

And I'm going to disagree with the Señor. My prescribed medicines give me a gut pain like I've never experienced in my life. It's so bad that if I'm out somewhere when it hits, walking is difficult. Cannabis relieves this gripping pain. It doesn't numb out the pain like an opioid, rather, it takes focus off of the pain, hard to explain, but bottom line: the pain becomes a non-issue.

So yeah Big Pharma, shake in your boots. The biggest pusher of addictive drugs is right under the nose of those who lament the use of cannabis.
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Consumer Reports lists the generic zolpidem - Ambien - sleep aid as a Best Buy. Seven pills cost $16 to $17. It's side effects:
Ambien (zolpidem) is a sedative/hypnotic used for treating insomnia. A generic formulation is available. The most common side effects of Ambien (zolpidem) are drowsiness, dizziness, weakness, lightheadedness, "drugged" feeling, tiredness, loss of coordination, stuffy nose, dry mouth, sore throat, nausea, constipation, diarrhea, stomach upset, headache, or muscle pain. Other side effects of Ambien include confusion, insomnia, euphoria, ataxia (balance problems), and visual changes. Ambien can cause withdrawal symptoms (muscle cramps, sweats, shaking, and seizures).
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There are no adequate studies of Ambien (zolpidem) use in pregnant women. Ambien (zolpidem) is excreted in human breast milk and may adversely affect the infant.
Well, that's peachy. The oft-quoted "billion dollar" cost to bring a drug to market didn't include investigating the effects on a pregnant woman or the child of a person taking Ambien. More:
Rarely, after taking this drug, people have gotten out of bed and driven vehicles while not fully awake ("sleep-driving"). People have also sleepwalked, prepared/eaten food, made phone calls, or had sex while not fully awake. Often, these people do not remember these events. This problem can be dangerous to you or to others.
So, we've got a choice, either a $16-17 dollar pill with potentially serious side effects, or maybe 25-50 cents worth of cannabis for an improved night's sleep. Oh, and you could grow your own.

Shake in your boots Big Pharma.
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I was prescribed a handful of drugs after my last hospital adventure, eight days that cost almost $50K btw.

The prescribed prednisone, a steroid, fragmented my sleep patterns. I'd wake up at 3:30 a.m., and that would be it. Or I'd wake up at 5 a.m., get up, have breakfast, and fall back asleep afterwards. Or, I couldn't fall asleep until 2:30, but I'd wake up at 6.

Maybe the average person doesn't know that different strains of cannabis have different properties. In the most general sense, there are daytime and nighttime strains, roughly the difference between sativa and indica species. Within those species, and hybrids between the two, strains are further characterized according to their properties.

If you're curious, you can explore the hundreds of varieties here: https://www.leafly.com/explore

Anyway, I went to my favorite recreational dispensary, and purchased two indica dominant strains known for their relaxing effects, 3.5 grams of each, $54 total. Now, I vape a very small amount late in the evening, an hour or so before bed. I sleep through the night, wake up clear-headed, refreshed.

Those 7 grams of cannabis will last half a year or longer. How much would I be spending on six months of pharmaceutical "sleep aids?"

And I'm going to disagree with the Señor. My prescribed medicines give me a gut pain like I've never experienced in my life. It's so bad that if I'm out somewhere when it hits, walking is difficult. Cannabis relieves this gripping pain. It doesn't numb out the pain like an opioid, rather, it takes focus off of the pain, hard to explain, but bottom line: the pain becomes a non-issue.

So yeah Big Pharma, shake in your boots. The biggest pusher of addictive drugs is right under the nose of those who lament the use of cannabis.
A few days ago I bought one ounce of Kush ($400) that lasts me six months when I buy another. I was told it comes from Northern California and I only use a tiny bit each day that gives a good high but I never drive unless it has been four hours since I last took a toke. I am an alcoholic and smoking a little bit of Kush when imbibing cuts my drinking way down. Ohio has legalized medical THC but only in the form of a spray inhaler and under a medical condition that I don't have unless I find a friendly doctor. Medical marijuana users can be denied the right to buy a gun and that is something to think about.
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A few days ago I bought one ounce of Kush ($400) that lasts me six months when I buy another. I was told it comes from Northern California and I only use a tiny bit each day that gives a good high but I never drive unless it has been four hours since I last took a toke. I am an alcoholic and smoking a little bit of Kush when imbibing cuts my drinking way down. Ohio has legalized medical THC but only in the form of a spray inhaler and under a medical condition that I don't have unless I find a friendly doctor. Medical marijuana users can be denied the right to buy a gun and that is something to think about.
Not in Colorado.

Kush OG was one of the strains I got for sleep and the gut pains. It's $175/oz here, from a family owned and operated store, and, they grow it here ... lab tested, 28% THC.
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