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Old September 2nd, 2016, 03:33 PM   #41
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Hell yes I'm paying for it! We all are!! What poor are we paying for? Would that be the 20,000,000 illegal aliens we're subsidizing be a cost benefit or loss? Your still stuck on who's obligation it is. The young, who don't need it are opting out. Who's picking up that obligation? Would that be you and me? Premiums are skyrocketing, and the deductibles are so high you might as well say your self insured. The moment Obimbo signed the ACA you gave up your health care choice and put it in the hands of a government who can't even run the Veterans Administration.
lets look at the DMV, the post office or the road construction. all three are state run monopolies and all three would completely fail if they were not protected monopolies. any of those things should have been all of the evidence that was needed to say "wait a minute!? are these really the people i want in charge of my health?"
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the DMV and the post office have never done anything bad to me ... now the roads are another issue - but they're controlled by the state, not the federal govt.

oh - the dmv is state as well - duh.

so the only thing the fed runs is the post office. and they do a pretty amazing job.
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Old September 2nd, 2016, 04:43 PM   #43
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Psssst! Venezuela.


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Old September 2nd, 2016, 05:02 PM   #44
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the DMV and the post office have never done anything bad to me ... now the roads are another issue - but they're controlled by the state, not the federal govt.

oh - the dmv is state as well - duh.

so the only thing the fed runs is the post office. and they do a pretty amazing job.
huh?

maybe look up spooner vs the USPS
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Psssst! Venezuela.


Psssst! Australia.
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Psssst! Australia.
What does Australia have to do with this thread?
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What does Australia have to do with this thread?
It has as much to do with this thread as Venezuela, speedy.
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It has as much to do with this thread as Venezuela, speedy.
Why do you call me speedy.I took speed for three years but now I prefer downers.
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i am not an organ donor and i don't expect to grab one off the list if one of mine fails.

lets have the nation stop taking in strays and then IMO issues like this one become more logical to entertain.

i honestly think that removing the state from medicine is the first step to fixing it. that means completely. patent laws, lobbyists, the FDA, DEA along w/ medic/medicare the works and obamacare. all the government does when it gets involved with things is fucks them up and makes them more inefficient and costly.

or maybe i am wrong...no there are not any government programs that are not inefficient, costly and corrupt.
Everybody should be an organ donor.Your organs are no good to yu when yu dead.
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Whatever you say, however you want to twist it, your post reveals your fear and greed.

A form of medicine exists strictly for the well-off, and you stand tall for it. If providing for the well-off means a bunch of not-so-well-off folks have to get by without healthcare, hey, they must be losers and we already have enough losers so tuff nuts to them.

Is that your position?
No, my position is that no one in the USA goes without health care. No one is told sorry you wont be treated. But, if you have insurance and the means to pay then it opens a door to more health care choices.
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