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Old December 29th, 2016, 09:56 PM   #11
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They agree!!!

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Ah, but who controls the government??
Not the people. The state, the banks and the corporations have become indistinguishable. The state is just the muscle for the other two.
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Not the people. The state, the banks and the corporations have become indistinguishable. The state is just the muscle for the other two.
Agreed.
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Old December 29th, 2016, 10:25 PM   #13
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Agreed.
Dude, they just schedule 1ed CBD oil. WTF!!!! I took some last week and it is fucking magic. I have also taken a lot of drugs in my life and that is nowhere close to a recreational drug. It just works to well, is to easy to produce w/ little to no side effects and does not require a patent. Therefore it is dangerous and the people need to be protected from it.
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Old December 30th, 2016, 06:45 PM   #14
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Dude, they just schedule 1ed CBD oil. WTF!!!! I took some last week and it is fucking magic. I have also taken a lot of drugs in my life and that is nowhere close to a recreational drug. It just works to well, is to easy to produce w/ little to no side effects and does not require a patent. Therefore it is dangerous and the people need to be protected from it.
What condition did it help for you?
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Old January 1st, 2017, 01:51 AM   #15
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I had pneumonia at the end of May. I recovered fully from it. When I got out of the hospital, I had about 5-6 prescriptions to fill. When I went to pick them up, the lady asked me, "Do you know this one is $320?"

It was a high-tech inhaler, with a steroid and a bronchodilator, but I was already feeling good, was on steroids, had no insurance to cover it, and so I skipped in.

Yesterday I had appointments with my pulmonologist and cardiologist, following a serious bout with the flu about five weeks ago. I got a generally clean bill of health, however I have been having asthma-like symptoms with the cough and lung infection that hung on. I'm taking an antibiotic which has just about knocked down the infection, and my pulmonologist suggested an inhaler. I said, please not the $320 one.

He said he'd write me a prescription for a Canadian pharmacy and the inhaler, the $320 US model, would be much less through them.

Much less. How about $38?

We are getting screwed royal in the US. Interestingly, the product the Canadian pharmacy sells is the one sold in Europe, where they have that awful socialized medicine.

We're getting screwed. I suppose our government could do something about this, but then again the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies are powerful.

A $320 inhaler for $38. The same formula. It's criminal.
In Canada, there are price controls limiting the freedom of drug companies to charge variable prices and overcharging. As I recall, back when Obama was doing the "sausage-making" to create the Affordable Car Act, that was one of the first things he gave away...I'm sure contributions from drug manufacturers had nothing to do with it
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Actually Canada is more of a "free market" than the US is for drugs.
A market has a buyer and a seller, both of whom have an interest in getting a better deal.
In Canada, you have drug companies, trying to get as much as they can for their products, and you have Medicare, trying to pay as little as they can for those products.
Ideally, there would be more buyers and more sellers, but at least the people on both sides have interests in negotiating a "fair" deal.
In the US, you have the drug companies trying to jack up prices, but the decision to buy a drug is made by people who don't really care how much it costs, with predictable results, sky high prices.
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I had pneumonia at the end of May. I recovered fully from it. When I got out of the hospital, I had about 5-6 prescriptions to fill. When I went to pick them up, the lady asked me, "Do you know this one is $320?"

It was a high-tech inhaler, with a steroid and a bronchodilator, but I was already feeling good, was on steroids, had no insurance to cover it, and so I skipped in.

Yesterday I had appointments with my pulmonologist and cardiologist, following a serious bout with the flu about five weeks ago. I got a generally clean bill of health, however I have been having asthma-like symptoms with the cough and lung infection that hung on. I'm taking an antibiotic which has just about knocked down the infection, and my pulmonologist suggested an inhaler. I said, please not the $320 one.

He said he'd write me a prescription for a Canadian pharmacy and the inhaler, the $320 US model, would be much less through them.

Much less. How about $38?

We are getting screwed royal in the US. Interestingly, the product the Canadian pharmacy sells is the one sold in Europe, where they have that awful socialized medicine.

We're getting screwed. I suppose our government could do something about this, but then again the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies are powerful.

A $320 inhaler for $38. The same formula. It's criminal.
i didn't have insurance for quite a while a few years ago and i was getting all my meds dirt cheap from an Indian pharmacy. i almost didn't order from them because i thought with those prices the meds had to be fake. nope, they were the real meds, sealed from the factory. exact same meds i took here made by the same companies even...we are getting ROYALLY screwed when it comes to meds prices!

i can post the name of that pharmacy if anyone needs it. they don't sell anything controlled but they have just about everything else...
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I didn't understand the power of universal healthcare until yesterday. If everybody is insured by the same insurer, then the drug companies can't make blood profits. The insurer, the government, says is what we'll pay. Clearly that's working in Europe and Canada.

It just flipped me out, $320 here and $38 there.
The truth is between the 2 extremes. On 1 extreme, drug companies charge exorbitant prices. The other extreme is prescriptions so cheap, that the company does not make enough money to justify development of new medications.
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The truth is between the 2 extremes. On 1 extreme, drug companies charge exorbitant prices. The other extreme is prescriptions so cheap, that the company does not make enough money to justify development of new medications.
No one wants to talk about he fact that its the profits of the US market that fuels the development of the new drugs. Because state ran health care puts caps on the price of prescriptions, the US medications, like the military, gets strapped with the lions share of the cost for the world
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Old March 24th, 2017, 09:03 AM   #20
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Thr healthcare system is about as far from free market as you can get. It is completely government controlled.
If it's so controlled by the government WHY is the government PAYING the outrageous prices for these drugs ??

BTW Viagra in the states, my local pharmacy $36 a pill. The Pfizer website USED to say there was NO GENERIC and that anything claiming to be generic could actually be dangerous. After a little searching I found out there IS a generic in Canada. Pfizer lost a lawsuit over it. Generic Viagra from Canada, $2 a pill, or less.
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