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Old March 24th, 2017, 08:12 PM   #31
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If we are going to have socialism may as well do it right. Kill the weak to feed the strong. No reason to allocate resorces to unproductive sections of society. It is wasteful.
Yet again you prove that you know fuck all about socialism in any of it's guises.
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Old March 24th, 2017, 11:27 PM   #32
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Yet again you prove that you know fuck all about socialism in any of it's guises.
You seem to be deflecting again pumpkin.
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Old March 25th, 2017, 07:37 AM   #33
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I fail to see your point
Many of the top pharmaceutical companies aren't based in the US. They profit off of drugs they push whether they are sold in the US or in a price controlled country, they just make buttloads more when they push their drugs in the US.

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Nine of the top 10 spend more on marketing than on R&D. I mean think about it. I don't watch American TV, but every time I'm exposed to it I'm freaked by how many drug commercials are aired.
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Old March 25th, 2017, 07:43 AM   #34
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If we are going to have socialism may as well do it right. Kill the weak to feed the strong. No reason to allocate resorces to unproductive sections of society. It is wasteful.
I hope you realize that your conception of socialism is similar to your vision of liberalism: You are 100 percent blind to the plusses of both, and the plusses do exist.

The primary obstacle to better functioning government and society in general are peoples' unwillingness to acknowledge the good points made by those of political persuasions different from our own.

It's not institutions that hold back progress. It's attitudes.

The odds are quite good that your opponents are right more or less half the time. The same applies to you.
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Old March 25th, 2017, 07:55 AM   #35
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I had pneumonia at the end of May. I recovered fully from it. When I got out of the hospital, I had about 5-6 prescriptions to fill. When I went to pick them up, the lady asked me, "Do you know this one is $320?"

It was a high-tech inhaler, with a steroid and a bronchodilator, but I was already feeling good, was on steroids, had no insurance to cover it, and so I skipped in.

Yesterday I had appointments with my pulmonologist and cardiologist, following a serious bout with the flu about five weeks ago. I got a generally clean bill of health, however I have been having asthma-like symptoms with the cough and lung infection that hung on. I'm taking an antibiotic which has just about knocked down the infection, and my pulmonologist suggested an inhaler. I said, please not the $320 one.

He said he'd write me a prescription for a Canadian pharmacy and the inhaler, the $320 US model, would be much less through them.

Much less. How about $38?

We are getting screwed royal in the US. Interestingly, the product the Canadian pharmacy sells is the one sold in Europe, where they have that awful socialized medicine.

We're getting screwed. I suppose our government could do something about this, but then again the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies are powerful.

A $320 inhaler for $38. The same formula. It's criminal.
An update: The price of this inhaler from Walmart has increased $60. It's now $380, $375 with a $5-off online coupon.
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Many of the top pharmaceutical companies aren't based in the US. They profit off of drugs they push whether they are sold in the US or in a price controlled country, they just make buttloads more when they push their drugs in the US.

As Goober pointed out:



Nine of the top 10 spend more on marketing than on R&D. I mean think about it. I don't watch American TV, but every time I'm exposed to it I'm freaked by how many drug commercials are aired.
Marketing expenses are catatorized under sales, general, and administrative expenses, not just marketing. It is where most of a drug company's expenses are put.
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You seem to be deflecting again pumpkin.
Does this post of yours do anything but deflect?
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A $320 inhaler for $38. The same formula. It's criminal.
In the UK it would cost you £8.40, unless of course you were any of the following, under 16, a full time student 16-19, over 60, pregnant, or registered as unemployed, in which case it's free.

A person requiring multiple prescriptions over a long period can buy something called a pre-paid prescription certificate which costs around £29 for 3 months or £104 for a full 12 months, these cover the cost of any prescriptions issued to you by a doctor or hospital in the period of the certificate.

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In the UK it would cost you £8.40, unless of course you were any of the following, under 16, a full time student 16-19, over 60, pregnant, or registered as unemployed, in which case it's free.

A person requiring multiple prescriptions over a long period can buy something called a pre-paid prescription certificate which costs around £29 for 3 months or £104 for a full 12 months, these cover the cost of any prescriptions issued to you by a doctor or hospital in the period of the certificate.
I'm over 60.

Keep rubbing it in, Michael.
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I'm over 60.

Keep rubbing it in, Michael.
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