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Old December 29th, 2016, 03:37 PM   #1
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Here's what's really wrong with Obamacare and private insurance....

I had pneumonia at the end of May. I recovered fully from it. When I got out of the hospital, I had about 5-6 prescriptions to fill. When I went to pick them up, the lady asked me, "Do you know this one is $320?"

It was a high-tech inhaler, with a steroid and a bronchodilator, but I was already feeling good, was on steroids, had no insurance to cover it, and so I skipped in.

Yesterday I had appointments with my pulmonologist and cardiologist, following a serious bout with the flu about five weeks ago. I got a generally clean bill of health, however I have been having asthma-like symptoms with the cough and lung infection that hung on. I'm taking an antibiotic which has just about knocked down the infection, and my pulmonologist suggested an inhaler. I said, please not the $320 one.

He said he'd write me a prescription for a Canadian pharmacy and the inhaler, the $320 US model, would be much less through them.

Much less. How about $38?

We are getting screwed royal in the US. Interestingly, the product the Canadian pharmacy sells is the one sold in Europe, where they have that awful socialized medicine.

We're getting screwed. I suppose our government could do something about this, but then again the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies are powerful.

A $320 inhaler for $38. The same formula. It's criminal.
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Old December 29th, 2016, 03:56 PM   #2
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I had pneumonia at the end of May. I recovered fully from it. When I got out of the hospital, I had about 5-6 prescriptions to fill. When I went to pick them up, the lady asked me, "Do you know this one is $320?"

It was a high-tech inhaler, with a steroid and a bronchodilator, but I was already feeling good, was on steroids, had no insurance to cover it, and so I skipped in.

Yesterday I had appointments with my pulmonologist and cardiologist, following a serious bout with the flu about five weeks ago. I got a generally clean bill of health, however I have been having asthma-like symptoms with the cough and lung infection that hung on. I'm taking an antibiotic which has just about knocked down the infection, and my pulmonologist suggested an inhaler. I said, please not the $320 one.

He said he'd write me a prescription for a Canadian pharmacy and the inhaler, the $320 US model, would be much less through them.

Much less. How about $38?

We are getting screwed royal in the US. Interestingly, the product the Canadian pharmacy sells is the one sold in Europe, where they have that awful socialized medicine.

We're getting screwed. I suppose our government could do something about this, but then again the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies are powerful.

A $320 inhaler for $38. The same formula. It's criminal.

Remember the EpiPen?? Daraprim (used for HIV) went from $13/pill to $750?
Drugs for rheumatoid arthritis which went from $32/180 pills to $500 in two years? The heart drug Isuprel (isoproterenol) and blood pressure medication Nitropress (nitroprusside), the company jacked up the prices. A single dose of Isuprel rose from $180 to $1,472, and Nitropress went from $215 to $1,346. The company also purchased Cuprimine (penicillamine)—a drug used to treat Wilson’s disease, a rare genetic disorder—and upped its price from $8.88 to $262 per capsule. In all three cases, the drugs had no generic equivalents available, so Valeant was able to corner the market with a built-in base of customers.
AND this has nothing to do with ACA. Medicare and commercial health plans, no government body—including the Federal Trade Commission, the Food and Drug Administration, and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services—has rules or laws that dictate or restrict the price a pharmaceutical company can set for a drug. And in most cases, there’s nothing that restricts how much a company can raise that price.
There are government protected monopolies. The FDA takes as long as 3-4 years to approve a drug. State laws sometimes limit generics.
Now watch how quickly we hear from the "Jimmies" of the world telling us...YEAH, BUT....those drug companies spend millions of dollars on research and development. 3....2....1....
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Remember the EpiPen?? Daraprim (used for HIV) went from $13/pill to $750?
Drugs for rheumatoid arthritis which went from $32/180 pills to $500 in two years? The heart drug Isuprel (isoproterenol) and blood pressure medication Nitropress (nitroprusside), the company jacked up the prices. A single dose of Isuprel rose from $180 to $1,472, and Nitropress went from $215 to $1,346. The company also purchased Cuprimine (penicillamine)—a drug used to treat Wilson’s disease, a rare genetic disorder—and upped its price from $8.88 to $262 per capsule. In all three cases, the drugs had no generic equivalents available, so Valeant was able to corner the market with a built-in base of customers.
AND this has nothing to do with ACA. Medicare and commercial health plans, no government body—including the Federal Trade Commission, the Food and Drug Administration, and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services—has rules or laws that dictate or restrict the price a pharmaceutical company can set for a drug. And in most cases, there’s nothing that restricts how much a company can raise that price.
There are government protected monopolies. The FDA takes as long as 3-4 years to approve a drug. State laws sometimes limit generics.
Now watch how quickly we hear from the "Jimmies" of the world telling us...YEAH, BUT....those drug companies spend millions of dollars on research and development. 3....2....1....
I didn't understand the power of universal healthcare until yesterday. If everybody is insured by the same insurer, then the drug companies can't make blood profits. The insurer, the government, says is what we'll pay. Clearly that's working in Europe and Canada.

It just flipped me out, $320 here and $38 there.
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Old December 29th, 2016, 07:22 PM   #4
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I had pneumonia at the end of May. I recovered fully from it. When I got out of the hospital, I had about 5-6 prescriptions to fill. When I went to pick them up, the lady asked me, "Do you know this one is $320?"

It was a high-tech inhaler, with a steroid and a bronchodilator, but I was already feeling good, was on steroids, had no insurance to cover it, and so I skipped in.

Yesterday I had appointments with my pulmonologist and cardiologist, following a serious bout with the flu about five weeks ago. I got a generally clean bill of health, however I have been having asthma-like symptoms with the cough and lung infection that hung on. I'm taking an antibiotic which has just about knocked down the infection, and my pulmonologist suggested an inhaler. I said, please not the $320 one.

He said he'd write me a prescription for a Canadian pharmacy and the inhaler, the $320 US model, would be much less through them.

Much less. How about $38?

We are getting screwed royal in the US. Interestingly, the product the Canadian pharmacy sells is the one sold in Europe, where they have that awful socialized medicine.

We're getting screwed. I suppose our government could do something about this, but then again the insurance and pharmaceutical lobbies are powerful.

A $320 inhaler for $38. The same formula. It's criminal.
Didn't you get the memo.

Healthcare isn't about health, it's about a companies CEO to be able to play another round of golf at Marlago, and be able to deduct it from his taxes as a business expense.

What the hell are you any way, some latte sipping, cheese eating socialist?
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Didn't you get the memo.

Healthcare isn't about health, it's about a companies CEO to be able to play another round of golf at Marlago, and be able to deduct it from his taxes as a business expense.

What the hell are you any way, some latte sipping, cheese eating socialist?
No, I prefer depth charges....

Of course I know that crap goes on, but it got right in my face and it was extreme like the ones Clara listed.
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Where are all the free market advocates????
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Where are all the free market advocates????
Your healthcare system is about as far from free market as you can get without delving into extreme communism.
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Where are all the free market advocates????
Thr healthcare system is about as far from free market as you can get. It is completely government controlled.
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Thr healthcare system is about as far from free market as you can get. It is completely government controlled.
They agree!!!

The high today in Hell should be in the lower teens, with a chance of snow.

Ah, but who controls the government??
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They agree!!!

The high today in Hell should be in the lower teens, with a chance of snow.

Ah, but who controls the government??
Big pharma and health insurance companies have bought just enough politicians to do the job for themselves.
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