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Old January 14th, 2017, 09:06 AM   #11
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So the US can't afford something that nearly every other country can afford?
Yet this is objective truth: USA cannot afford obamacare, and medicare and medicaid expenditures need to be significantly reduced, if USA is to remain solvent.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 09:09 AM   #12
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So what do YOU propose we do about the 40 million working poor who can't afford insurance ?? Let them die of simple easily treatable diseases ?? Let them die of treatable injuries ??
This is a moral question: those who cannot afford to pay for healthcare should be allowed to die in peace and dignity. If fools are protected from consequences of their mistakes, the world will be full of fools, as the twentieth century proves once again.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 09:13 AM   #13
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This is a moral question: those who cannot afford to pay for healthcare should be allowed to die in peace and dignity. If fools are protected from consequences of their mistakes, the world will be full of fools, as the twentieth century proves once again.
Paging Mr Scrooge, Mr Ebeneezer Scrooge, Paging Mr Scrooge, please report to the gas chamber, your executioner is waiting.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 09:18 AM   #14
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This is a moral question: those who cannot afford to pay for healthcare should be allowed to die in peace and dignity. If fools are protected from consequences of their mistakes, the world will be full of fools, as the twentieth century proves once again.
So do you have a big DNR tattooed on your chest in case you have a heart attack?
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Old January 14th, 2017, 02:12 PM   #15
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Yet this is objective truth: USA cannot afford obamacare, and medicare and medicaid expenditures need to be significantly reduced, if USA is to remain solvent.
How do other countries afford health care?

Seriously, how do so many other countries manage to do something that the USA just can't afford?
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Old January 14th, 2017, 02:34 PM   #16
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When was the last time you heard ANY lawmaker say something positive about Rand Paul? I hate to break it to you and Sabcat, but the GOP can't stand Paul. He's NOT his father.

There are two things that stand out in Randy's heatlhcare plan. IN fact those are the only two things outlined in the plan: 1) Health Care Savings Plan 2) Eliminate the pre-existing condition clause. Oh, and he wants to "TOY" with Medicaid.
Anyone here used the HSA?? It's a savings account for medical expenses, a tax-advantaged medical savings account you can contribute to and draw money from for certain medical expenses tax-free. HSAs can be used for out-of-pocket medical, dental, and vision. HSAs can’t be used to pay health insurance premiums. HSA’s can only be used with “High Deductible Health Plans” that count as “Minimum Essential Coverage (MEC).”

IT'S not a health care plan. Mr. Clara and I had one. We had so much moola taken out of MY paycheck and placed in the account. It was at a time when we could barely afford the house payment so the $100 that came out put us in a big bind. I hated it. Would never recommend it to anyone who is struggling to pay the bills.
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How do other countries afford health care?

Seriously, how do so many other countries manage to do something that the USA just can't afford?


Higher taxes.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 02:40 PM   #18
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So the US can't afford something that nearly every other country can afford?
If it was in the Constitution....Yes.....until then....No.....Its a job of the States, if they want to handle it....
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Old January 14th, 2017, 02:42 PM   #19
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How do other countries afford health care?

Seriously, how do so many other countries manage to do something that the USA just can't afford?
They tax The living hell out of people...and let us supply their defense..Duhhhhh!!!
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Old January 14th, 2017, 02:44 PM   #20
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Paging Mr Scrooge, Mr Ebeneezer Scrooge, Paging Mr Scrooge, please report to the gas chamber, your executioner is waiting.

‘If they would rather die,’ said Scrooge, ‘they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

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