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Old May 3rd, 2017, 07:49 PM   #11
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Let's see if I have this right.

"Socialised medicine is bad, because it's effective in prolonging life".

There is no pleasing some people
Is that what I said?

Nope.

The OP seemed concerned about extending the lifespans of humans. What as a society do we gain from that? Why should all of society contribute a large amount of resorces into prolonging the lives of the elderly?

If that is a personal desire than I believe that is something that you should personally invest in. There is no reason that it should be a priority for society.
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Old May 3rd, 2017, 07:51 PM   #12
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What is your point?

Do your posts ever follow a train of thought and/or add anything?

You are a very sad and angry person.
The point flew over your head.

In your perfect world, you could volunteer at the old folks' home as Termination Officer, your job not only deciding who should be terminated, but also you could be the Terminator.

It would be a fulfilling job, seeing how you feel about old folks.
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Old May 3rd, 2017, 08:06 PM   #13
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Is that what I said?

Nope.

The OP seemed concerned about extending the lifespans of humans. What as a society do we gain from that? Why should all of society contribute a large amount of resorces into prolonging the lives of the elderly?

If that is a personal desire than I believe that is something that you should personally invest in. There is no reason that it should be a priority for society.
Well then, end your life now, save those resources for the rest of us, we'll figure out what to do without you.

You are really having a difficult time figuring out how extending human life benefits humans, huh?
Maybe no one told you, but we all expect to be old some day, well, except for you, noble sacrifice there, get on with it...

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Old May 4th, 2017, 05:58 AM   #14
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We can keep people alive a lot longer in civilized countries, but a lot of them go gaga. Should we bump 'em all off then? No - what we need to do is to discover how to stop them going gaga. We are working on this. The great thing is to make all treatment free at the point of delivery, to get the worry out of the way, then do the decent thing.
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Old May 4th, 2017, 06:44 AM   #15
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Wait a minute, I thought you people said the evil socialized medicine system would start snuffing old folks when they started sucking up too many resources.
What happened to the ANGUISH, THE OUTRAGE and TERROR over the "Obama DEATH PANELS" that would be a product or "socialized medicine", you know, OBAMACARE?
OR was it "CLINTON DEATH PANELS? You people panic over so much shit it gets confusing at times

Anyway, NOW your saying a characteristic of "socialized" medicine is getting the useless old people to live TOO long? WTF???
Quality of life should never come into play. IV, Cathater, Meds and string them along to 101 years old.
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We can people alive a lot longer in civilized countries, but a lot of them go gaga. Should we bump 'em all off then? No - what we need to do is to discover how to stop them going gaga. We are working on this. The great thing is to make all treatment free at the point of delivery, to get the worry out of the way, then do the decent thing.
Individual choice, keep government out of it.
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The point flew over your head.

In your perfect world, you could volunteer at the old folks' home as Termination Officer, you're job not only deciding who should be terminated, but also you could be the Terminator.

It would be a fulfilling job, seeing how you feel about old folks.
I can argue that by government policy of picking and choosing winners and losers with quality of life this is already semi taking place.

MEDICARE.
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I can argue that by government policy of picking and choosing winners and losers with quality of life this is already semi taking place.

MEDICARE.
Well please, expand your argument.
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Individual choice, keep government out of it.
The concept of informed consent rears its ugly head again.

Should it be the decision of someone who's gaga to make such a decision?

I'm strongly in favor of legal medically assisted suicide, but there needs to be informed concent.
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Old May 4th, 2017, 09:12 AM   #20
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I can argue that by government policy of picking and choosing winners and losers with quality of life this is already semi taking place.

MEDICARE.
What government policy of picking and choosing, other than politicians giving themselves platinum healthcare that is?
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