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Old April 28th, 2017, 10:18 AM   #1
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An American Sickness

PBS Newshour had a segment last night about why the U.S. pays more for health care than the rest of the world. Paul Solman interviewed physician/author, Elizabeth Rosenthal who wrote: “An American Sickness: How Healthcare Became Big Business and How You Can Take It Back”

Here is some of the interview.

ROSENTHAL: We spend two or three times what other countries do on health care, without getting better results, which is the key here. We’re not getting a good deal for all the money we spend.

PAUL SOLMAN: We’re not living longer?

ELISABETH ROSENTHAL: We’re not living longer. I think one of the most damning studies I have seen recently that was that people with cystic fibrosis, which is a very serious primarily lung disease, live longer in Canada than they do in the U.S.
And this is a treatment-heavy disease with a lot of technology, new medicines. And we like to think, well, at least we do that better than everywhere else in the world.

PAUL SOLMAN: Yes, yes. I thought that.

We don’t, but we sure pay more for it. Why?

Because of what the market will bear, says Rosenthal, but also because:

ELISABETH ROSENTHAL: Around the world, there are very few developed places, perhaps none, that have no mechanism for some kind of price control.

ELISABETH ROSENTHAL: I think we’re pretty unique in that.

Other countries will say, here’s the maximum price. Go ahead and compete below that. And in other countries, there’s policy that you can charge a lot when you have a wonderful new technology, but as it gets older, that price has to keep coming down. And what we see in the United States, pretty much uniquely, is, as technologies get older, sometimes the price can go up, and can go up a lot.

There's more. Why the U.S. pays more for health care than the rest of the world | PBS NewsHour
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Old April 28th, 2017, 10:25 AM   #2
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Serious question. Why are we trying to expand the human lifespan?

We just hit 7.5 billion humans world wide.

We need to but the average lifespan for humans back down to 75. I go to the volunteer at the geriatric war you have no idea how many old people are just abandoned. The human body begins rapidly deteriorating around that age. They are just sucking up resorces.

This is a major flaw of socialized medicine.
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Old April 29th, 2017, 08:33 AM   #3
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State ran health care is the only viable option. The state is in the best position to decide the health care of its members while being devoid of emotion. To Sabcats point, once the State has complete control, then decisions being made in regards to health care of a individual would include their capability of contributing to the State
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If the thousands of diseases, they cherry picked cystic fibrosis patients living longer. The OP wants the reader to believe it is superior medical care, but the difference is typical US red tape and regulations. The actual reason: Canadians receive lung transplants at a higher percentage than Americans.
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Serious question. Why are we trying to expand the human lifespan?

We just hit 7.5 billion humans world wide.

We need to but the average lifespan for humans back down to 75. I go to the volunteer at the geriatric war you have no idea how many old people are just abandoned. The human body begins rapidly deteriorating around that age. They are just sucking up resorces.

This is a major flaw of socialized medicine.
Wait a minute, I thought you people said the evil socialized medicine system would start snuffing old folks when they started sucking up too many resources.
What happened to the ANGUISH, THE OUTRAGE and TERROR over the "Obama DEATH PANELS" that would be a product or "socialized medicine", you know, OBAMACARE?
OR was it "CLINTON DEATH PANELS? You people panic over so much shit it gets confusing at times

Anyway, NOW your saying a characteristic of "socialized" medicine is getting the useless old people to live TOO long? WTF???
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This is a major flaw of socialized medicine.
Let's see if I have this right.

"Socialised medicine is bad, because it's effective in prolonging life".

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Serious question. Why are we trying to expand the human lifespan?

We just hit 7.5 billion humans world wide.

We need to but the average lifespan for humans back down to 75. I go to the volunteer at the geriatric war you have no idea how many old people are just abandoned. The human body begins rapidly deteriorating around that age. They are just sucking up resorces.

This is a major flaw of socialized medicine.
I've known people who were physically fit, completely alert, productive members of society into their 90's.
Are you ready to be euthanized Sab, you seem to meet the criteria of being a waste of resources....
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Serious question. Why are we trying to expand the human lifespan?
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Eat right. Visit your doctor regularly. Exercise. Die anyways
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I've known people who were physically fit, completely alert, productive members of society into their 90's.
Are you ready to be euthanized Sab, you seem to meet the criteria of being a waste of resources....
What is your point?

Do your posts ever follow a train of thought and/or add anything?

You are a very sad and angry person.
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Serious question. Why are we trying to expand the human lifespan?

We just hit 7.5 billion humans world wide.

We need to but the average lifespan for humans back down to 75. I go to the volunteer at the geriatric war you have no idea how many old people are just abandoned. The human body begins rapidly deteriorating around that age. They are just sucking up resorces.

This is a major flaw of socialized medicine
I've known people who were physically fit, completely alert, productive members of society into their 90's.
Are you ready to be euthanized Sab, you seem to meet the criteria of being a waste of resources....
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