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Old May 28th, 2017, 05:52 AM   #61
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Where are all the disgruntled US doctors going to go? To socialist Europe? Russia? China? India? Japan?

We're the world's only modern industrialized nation without a national healthcare system.

Do you want to force them to continue to be doctors when they quit? That is the only way your question holds any H2O.

It seems as if you are avoiding the question.





And we lead the world by leaps and bounds in medical advancements.

Do you think that is a coincidence?

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Do you want to force them to continue to be doctors when they quit? That is the only way your question holds any H2O.

It seems as if you are avoiding the question.





And we lead the world by leaps and bounds in medical advancements.

Do you think that is a coincidence?
What makes you think that doctors are going to quit?
If a person decides that even though they spent 8 years getting a medical degree, and more years in residence, that they would rather go into automotive repair, fine.
What they will do is exactly what everyone else does, look for a job that uses their skills.
Maybe it won't pay as much as they'd like, but that is true about nearly every job on the planet.
If there aren't enough doctors, the government can finance medical schools to produce large numbers of doctors.

If we lead the world "by leaps and bounds", how come we don't live as long?
Why does a baby born in another country have a better chance of living to see it's first birthday?
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What makes you think that doctors are going to quit?
If a person decides that even though they spent 8 years getting a medical degree, and more years in residence, that they would rather go into automotive repair, fine.
What they will do is exactly what everyone else does, look for a job that uses their skills.
Maybe it won't pay as much as they'd like, but that is true about nearly every job on the planet.
If there aren't enough doctors, the government can finance medical schools to produce large numbers of doctors.

If we lead the world "by leaps and bounds", how come we don't live as long?
Why does a baby born in another country have a better chance of living to see it's first birthday?


Try to follow along pumpkin, when you jump into the middle of a conversation trying to be quippy you just look silly.
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Do you want to force them to continue to be doctors when they quit? That is the only way your question holds any H2O.

It seems as if you are avoiding the question.
You introduced this question. It's one of those "You better fear this" distractions from a serious question: Is access to healthcare a right?

The answer to your rhetorical question is "No."

Would you trust your healthcare to a doctor in it only for the money? Do you?


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And we lead the world by leaps and bounds in medical advancements.

Do you think that is a coincidence?
No, but what does that have to do with the question, "Is access to healthcare a right?"

We may lead the world in medical advancements, but consider the drug acyclovir, the first anti-viral medication which was created by US citizens in 1979. A one ounce tube of the ointment runs around $700. The cost of the active ingredient is around $0.08. Can you say, "Rape"? Here's some more rapes:



Take away the "special arrangements" and collusions, and no reason exists to prevent all Americans from having high-quality healthcare for less, much less, than what now is spent.

Surely you don't support the current system, do you?
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Try to follow along pumpkin, when you jump into the middle of a conversation trying to be quippy you just look silly.
Darlin', that's an evasive, chicken shit response.
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Try to follow along pumpkin, when you jump into the middle of a conversation trying to be quippy you just look silly.
Evasive bullshit on your part.
Trumpsters!!! Struggling to appear superior and/or assertive while practicing chicken-shit evasiveness!
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You introduced this question. It's one of those "You better fear this" distractions from a serious question: Is access to healthcare a right?

The answer to your rhetorical question is "No."

Would you trust your healthcare to a doctor in it only for the money? Do you?




No, but what does that have to do with the question, "Is access to healthcare a right?"

We may lead the world in medical advancements, but consider the drug acyclovir, the first anti-viral medication which was created by US citizens in 1979. A one ounce tube of the ointment runs around $700. The cost of the active ingredient is around $0.08. Can you say, "Rape"? Here's some more rapes:



Take away the "special arrangements" and collusions, and no reason exists to prevent all Americans from having high-quality healthcare for less, much less, than what now is spent.

Surely you don't support the current system, do you?


It follows along w/ the premise just fine.

If one accepts the healthcare is to be treated as a right in the states, now in our current economical system "where will we get doctors?"

The way it is set up now some of the best and brightest elect to double the prescribed schooling and go a small fortune into debt in attempt to enter into the medical field. They do this because it is a lucrative and prestigious field. If we turn doctors into mailmen do you still expect the smartest and most able to choose this as their path?

smart and able people tend to be ambitious also.

There is truth behind the axiom "those that can't do, teach"
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Darlin', that's an evasive, chicken shit response.
The "questions" had been already addressed in the previous posts.

But then again, you have been avoiding them also.
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Was there a bandwagon going by....no it was a short bus.

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It follows along w/ the premise just fine.

If one accepts the healthcare is to be treated as a right in the states, now in our current economical system "where will we get doctors?"

The way it is set up now some of the best and brightest elect to double the prescribed schooling and go a small fortune into debt in attempt to enter into the medical field. They do this because it is a lucrative and prestigious field. If we turn doctors into mailmen do you still expect the smartest and most able to choose this as their path?

smart and able people tend to be ambitious also.

There is truth behind the axiom "those that can't do, teach"
So, ONLY people that place an extraordinarily priority of financial success could possibly be among "our best and brightest?"

Dedicated clergy, military personnel, teachers, cops, etc. etc, could NOT possibly be among "our best and brightest" because if they were they would seek to be doctors with fabulously financially successful private practices?
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