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Old May 28th, 2017, 11:56 AM   #81
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There are a lot of things I agree with Ron Paul on, but this is one of the issues he's stupid on! Ron Paul gets cred because he's not for sale (like sonny boy), but he shows how dumb doctrinaire libertarian ideology is every time he speaks and writes about the full range of public issues.
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Old May 28th, 2017, 12:56 PM   #82
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Do you really believe doctors enter the field based on some great need to help humanity? That they would spend all that time and money to become a doctor and not expect a just reward for their training? If helping humanity were their overriding drive, why are we seeing an appreciable drop in the number of candidates entering medical school? Remove just reward and you have removed the incentive.
And people wonder what's wrong with America and Americans.

Materialism is a mental disorder.

Yes, dammit, I do believe GOOD doctors have a strong desire to help humanity. You are a bloody cynic.
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And people wonder what's wrong with America and Americans.

Materialism is a mental disorder.

Yes, dammit, I do believe GOOD doctors have a strong desire to help humanity. You are a bloody cynic.


AND....here we go again with the "ALL OR NOTHING" RW ideology. The ZERO or SIXTY mindset. Black and white. No gray area.
Call me crazy, but isn't it possible to enter the medical field because you want to help humanity/save lives AND make money. JUDAS.
Being a doctor wasn't always so lucrative. My uncle was a doctor in a small rural community. He delivered every baby for miles around and probably collected $25 bucks a baby--if that. Sometimes he got chickens and eggs--sometimes he got a ham. There are still doctors, nurses, attorneys AND politicians who aren't in it for the money.
What the hell is wrong with these people? Well, at least they can't say that about teachers---since obviously there's NO MONEY in it. In fact, there's less and less every year.
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Old May 28th, 2017, 01:33 PM   #84
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You cannot have a Right at the expense of another person, that is morally wrong.
So a person has the right to let someone die even though they are capable of helping, no doesn't sound at all morally wrong...
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AND....here we go again with the "ALL OR NOTHING" RW ideology. The ZERO or SIXTY mindset. Black and white. No gray area.
Call me crazy, but isn't it possible to enter the medical field because you want to help humanity/save lives AND make money. JUDAS.
Being a doctor wasn't always so lucrative. My uncle was a doctor in a small rural community. He delivered every baby for miles around and probably collected $25 bucks a baby--if that. Sometimes he got chickens and eggs--sometimes he got a ham. There are still doctors, nurses, attorneys AND politicians who aren't in it for the money.
What the hell is wrong with these people? Well, at least they can't say that about teachers---since obviously there's NO MONEY in it. In fact, there's less and less every year.

All or nothing?

How about logic?

And for teachers. That's a pretty posh job for $40k a year. Smart or ambitious ones I know pick up another $20-30k off of side work untill they get their masters. I know a few teacher "couples" who travel internationally every summer. Seriously, what other job w/ full benefits offers those opportunities?


This violin song for teachers is ridiculously over played and extremely old.
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Old May 28th, 2017, 01:37 PM   #86
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So a person has the right to let someone die even though they are capable of helping, no doesn't sound at all morally wrong...
Yes.
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All or nothing?

How about logic?

And for teachers. That's a pretty posh job for $40k a year. Smart or ambitious ones I know pick up another $20-30k off of side work untill they get their masters. I know a few teacher "couples" who travel internationally every summer. Seriously, what other job w/ full benefits offers those opportunities?


This violin song for teachers is ridiculously over played and extremely old.

It's for the children. That includes a bad education, and all the debt piled on top of debt because government knows best.
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Yes, it's a right.

As are Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

You want to set up an illegitimate banking system like corporate for profit insurance companies, which is not a right, and the government insures a profit, which is unconstitutional, then you will make sure every citizen is covered under that system.
What?

I Didn't have anything to do w/ any of those things. Why should I be involved in the equation at all?
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Yes.
That right should be taken away. But I know humans will have to evolve to be humane. We are animals after all...
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So a person has the right to let someone die even though they are capable of helping, no doesn't sound at all morally wrong...


You've misunderstood the GOP motto. It isn't what you think: Make America Great Again

The REAL motto is: YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.
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