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Old July 6th, 2017, 07:25 PM   #21
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"boy" is the new "girl" and "girl" is the new "boy." Put your lipstick on and deal with it.
Do you realize Jazz Jennings, who is the "face" of trans children, went to get the "bottom done". The doctor literally told her that the hormone suppression \she was on was great for her boobs. Unfortunately it destroyed her sexual organs because they never developed. So, to do it, they will have to use part of her colon. There would be no "sensitivity". It would basically be nothing but a penis receptacle, and it would emit an odor that basically means her robotic vagina would have no feeling and smell like ass.
Tell me what part of this is not experimenting with children? Its all in the previous link to the Jazz Jennings story.
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Do you realize Jazz Jennings, who is the "face" of trans children, went to get the "bottom done". The doctor literally told her that the hormone suppression \she was on was great for her boobs. Unfortunately it destroyed her sexual organs because they never developed. So, to do it, they will have to use part of her colon. There would be no "sensitivity". It would basically be nothing but a penis receptacle, and it would emit an odor that basically means her robotic vagina would have no feeling and smell like ass.
Tell me what part of this is not experimenting with children? Its all in the previous link to the Jazz Jennings story.
I didn't know this. Does this mean "colon" is the new "vagina?"
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I didn't know this. Does this mean "colon" is the new "vagina?"
Yeah, and you deny science if you question man made global warming. Your an insensitive bigot/racist/homophobe if you believe in biology. Because sex is just a social construct. Never mind those hormone pill for life big pharma will sell you to prove it...
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Yeah, and you deny science if you question man made global warming. Your an insensitive bigot/racist/homophobe if you believe in biology. Because sex is just a social construct. Never mind those hormone pill for life big pharma will sell you to prove it...
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Do you realize Jazz Jennings, who is the "face" of trans children, went to get the "bottom done". The doctor literally told her that the hormone suppression \she was on was great for her boobs. Unfortunately it destroyed her sexual organs because they never developed. So, to do it, they will have to use part of her colon. There would be no "sensitivity". It would basically be nothing but a penis receptacle, and it would emit an odor that basically means her robotic vagina would have no feeling and smell like ass.
Tell me what part of this is not experimenting with children? Its all in the previous link to the Jazz Jennings story.
I have been trying all week to remember who that story was about. Usually if I don't know one of my kids does. I haven't been able to find it anyplace.


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Yeah, and you deny science if you question man made global warming. Your an insensitive bigot/racist/homophobe if you believe in biology. Because sex is just a social construct. Never mind those hormone pill for life big pharma will sell you to prove it...

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I stopped counting at 11 linked sources within the article. It requires you to actually click the link and read it. Here is the link
I?m a Pediatrician. How Transgender Ideology Has Infiltrated My Field and Produced Large-Scale Child Abuse.
thank you, that helps

you are right there are lots of links. but those links are not all relevant information. some are newspaper articles, some are university websites, one is just a personal anecdote. there are a few academic articles, most of which she herself wrote. where there are other academic articles they do not always actually back what she claims they back.

as i said, this is one side of the argument. it is the minority position because the evidence for it is pretty weak. there might be some LGBT activists who encourage trans-ness, and see it where it isnt really there, and thats bad. but its just as bad as saying it never happens.
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straw man.

your gender is biological. nearly everyone is either male or female and can tell you which one they are. there are a miniscule number of truly gender fluid people who feel maybe a bit male and a bit female and it changes over time, but thats vanishingly rare, and given its rarity it should not be framing the debate. people are either male or female.

thing is, that knowledge -what gender you are- exists in your brain. its thoughts and emotions, and it happens in your brain. congential problems happen, and the problem of the brain developing one way and the body developing another is well recognised. it happens, there isnt really any serious debate that that phenomena does, rarely, happen.

but if there are a few trans activists who demand new rights and bathrooms and that laws are changed and money is provided and consellors are educated and children are examined ........ it sounds like in some places its just gone overboard and trans people are identified when they really arent. and if thats happening thats bad. i can see it happening too, its certainly happening with autism, and ADHD, and depression and bipolar disorder. and if you are throwing drugs and surgery at any child who is just confused or stressed thats bad practice. but the solution is to tighten up practice, not deny that trans-ness does occasionally happen
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straw man.

your gender is biological. nearly everyone is either male or female and can tell you which one they are. there are a miniscule number of truly gender fluid people who feel maybe a bit male and a bit female and it changes over time, but thats vanishingly rare, and given its rarity it should not be framing the debate. people are either male or female.

thing is, that knowledge -what gender you are- exists in your brain. its thoughts and emotions, and it happens in your brain. congential problems happen, and the problem of the brain developing one way and the body developing another is well recognised. it happens, there isnt really any serious debate that that phenomena does, rarely, happen.

but if there are a few trans activists who demand new rights and bathrooms and that laws are changed and money is provided and consellors are educated and children are examined ........ it sounds like in some places its just gone overboard and trans people are identified when they really arent. and if thats happening thats bad. i can see it happening too, its certainly happening with autism, and ADHD, and depression and bipolar disorder. and if you are throwing drugs and surgery at any child who is just confused or stressed thats bad practice. but the solution is to tighten up practice, not deny that trans-ness does occasionally happen


I don't thing there are very many people who would disagree w/ you. In fact I wold say that the majority of people are attempting to frame the same argument. It is difficult when the lines of communication are instantly shut down and in their place insults such as bigot, racist or a number of other convenient pejoratives are used in their place.

It is amazing to me that I get much more logical arguments from the jr high debate team then a number of so called adults. For some reason arguments such as these are much more frustrating than the number of arguments I have had w/ religious fundamentalists. I guess their invisible friends give them a bit of leeway on rational thought from me.
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