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Old July 12th, 2017, 05:06 AM   #81
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Why is it that pretty much anything to do with human sexuality freaks out and/or obsesses RW conservatives?
I've never completely understood that.
Actually 0,8 % gay in the United States my Believe surelly !!!! But conservatives aren't homosexual my wonderings just !!!!
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Old July 12th, 2017, 08:03 AM   #82
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Hollywood - Don't you understanding English ??
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Old July 12th, 2017, 08:13 AM   #83
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Hollywood - Don't you understanding English ??
Why do you ask? Did you ask me a question or something?
Is there some reason I NEED to comment on your every utterance?
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Well. I don't understand French, Greek and Spanish but I understanding English.
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Old July 12th, 2017, 08:37 AM   #85
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Well. I don't understand French, Greek and Spanish but I understanding English.
With all due respect, you may understand it, but you cannot communicate clearly in it
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Old July 12th, 2017, 08:38 AM   #86
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Perhaps Irish-English and it's a bit Ireland.

USA and England more my best nations.
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Old July 12th, 2017, 09:06 AM   #87
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I am not sure. Thats my point as I have shown links to over and over in this thread.
You aren't sure and you think that's your point.


It's funny how some people try to turn their ignorance and incapability to present coherent arguments as evidence of their validity...


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The under 16 market is expanding ...
Prove that.
Or is it really just a claim you made up that sounds good?

Never mind. We both know it's the second one...


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... and its also got the added benefit of hormone blockers to suppress puberty, which means that sex organs do not develop.
I've already documented that the AAP is against this practice.
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I really hate how the right butchers truth and honesty in such discussions.
They talk about things like they're an endorsed practice, when the truth is something else entirely different.
It is important to understand that, for children who have not reached puberty, gender transition involves no medical interventions at all: it consists of social changes like name, pronoun and gender expression
https://www.aap.org/en-us/Documents/...erchildren.pdf

Too often on these topics, the right-wing political resources are more focused on presenting a false image of what is going on and endorsed rather than putting forth an honest and truthful picture...
First off, you should be honest in acknowledging this. Can you do this?
Secondly, what's next? Should we make it illegal to give pre-teens hormone blockers? (I'm actually open to that possibility)
But that approach opens a wider spectrum of issues. Sending kids to "ex-gay" camps that have been proven to not change kids to straight and instead harm kids. Parents refusing to vaccinate their kids.
There are a variety of ways that parents harm kids that are currently legal. And on a lot of these issues, right-wingers have habitually fought against parental restriction...


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So, no there is nothing blind about it. I have shown that in Thailand alone, its an over 4 billion dollar a year market.
And these comments are meaningless to the actual topic of "child abuse".
You have no idea how many of these are consenting adults and how many are pre-teens. As such, it's a meaningless number.


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I have demonstrated that in the west, its being expanded to children as young as 6. These are facts I have demonstrated.
In what quantities?
You are repeating yourself while failing to answer the questions raised when you previously stated it.

I realize that you may have been one of those "special" kids in school where your effort got you a pat on the head and the teacher openly said (mainly for your benefit) that your effort was good enough, but in the real world it takes more.
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You aren't sure and you think that's your point.


It's funny how some people try to turn their ignorance and incapability to present coherent arguments as evidence of their validity...



Prove that.
Or is it really just a claim you made up that sounds good?

Never mind. We both know it's the second one...



I've already documented that the AAP is against this practice.First off, you should be honest in acknowledging this. Can you do this?
Secondly, what's next? Should we make it illegal to give pre-teens hormone blockers? (I'm actually open to that possibility)
But that approach opens a wider spectrum of issues. Sending kids to "ex-gay" camps that have been proven to not change kids to straight and instead harm kids. Parents refusing to vaccinate their kids.
There are a variety of ways that parents harm kids that are currently legal. And on a lot of these issues, right-wingers have habitually fought against parental restriction...



And these comments are meaningless to the actual topic of "child abuse".
You have no idea how many of these are consenting adults and how many are pre-teens. As such, it's a meaningless number.



In what quantities?
You are repeating yourself while failing to answer the questions raised when you previously stated it.

I realize that you may have been one of those "special" kids in school where your effort got you a pat on the head and the teacher openly said (mainly for your benefit) that your effort was good enough, but in the real world it takes more.
Study this thread a little more. So far you receive a failing grade. Everything you are blabbering about, such as children trans exploding I have sourced. Repeatedly, in this thread.

I then refuted your AAP with documented proof in the form of a publication from AAP explaining trans children treatment. Keep studying the thread, you might get a passing C. I doubt it though.

Lastly you are now building a straw man about gay camps or some other shit that I have never said a thing about. I do not intend to. I do not buy into religion or praying anything away. I could care less who you marry or who you fuck. I do have a problem with medical experimenting on children in the name of pc trend. The term transtrender is a very good description.

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Hollywood - You are typical progressive with your Nazi hating. You is an asshole.
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Study this thread a little more. So far you receive a failing grade. Everything you are blabbering about, such as children trans exploding I have sourced. Repeatedly, in this thread.
You saying somebody else is failing is a bit like being savaged by a dead sheep.
You have documented existence, but not quantity of the problem. THAT is the point you are oblivious to.


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I then refuted your AAP with documented proof in the form of a publication from AAP explaining trans children treatment.
Document this claim.
I've seen your responses and I see no "documented proof in the form of a publication from AAP" provided.

You DID give the following, which amusingly PROVES what I was saying regarding the professional organizations stating AGAINST such treatments for preteens.
The United States Endocrine Society says that cross-gender hormones should not be used on kids under the age of 16. The standards in the Netherlands, United Kingdom, and Australia agree.
What Parents Should Know About Giving Hormones To Trans Kids


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Lastly you are now building a straw man about gay camps or some other shit that I have never said a thing about.
You need to learn the meaning of words.
When you don't understand what's going on, that is not a "straw man".
A "straw man" is when I allege you have a position you don't really have, in order for me to attack that position. I never claimed you had that position.
It's called a parallel. If you can't grasp that, then that isn't that surprising...


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I do not buy into religion or praying anything away. I could care less who you marry or who you fuck. I do have a problem with medical experimenting on children in the name of pc trend. The term transtrender is a very good description.
Yet you refuse to intelligibly engage on the topic.
You keep failing to recognize the disjoints in your responses.

You whine about "medical experimenting on children", but then in providing validation of your claim you provide something else.
Talking about how much business is in Thailand for all sex reassignment surgeries is not addressing how much "medical experimenting on children" is occurring. To date, you haven't even shown any single example of Thailand doing any preteen sex reassignment surgery. (That's how bad your attempt is... )

You (or some of your links) whine about how many kids are referred for gender identity issues, but the article doesn't mention how many involve surgery or hormone blocking drugs.
You complain about apple, but then present orange as evidence.

Finally, it would help if you could learn how professional societies work in the first place. While AAP takes a position against hormone blocking therapy (which I've already documented), that doesn't prevent individuals from doing something that violates that position.
It doesn't prevent individuals from voicing a disagreeing position that is not consistent with the stated professional group position.
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