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Old October 25th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #1
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How To Afford Universal Health Care.

I have written many speciest (racist) threads. And this one will be no different. Because you have to do what is right. Everything else will naturally grow the right way from those roots. But the question here is how to afford universal health care. Like what every other developed countries have. Along with some that aren't developed. Like mexico.

The answer is easy. You simply make it free free FREE! Don't believe it? First, consider the main measure for a nations wealth. It's Gross Domestic Product. At the end of this thread, I will include a graph. It shows what percentage of various nations GDP goes toward health care. You will notice that countries with it spend less of their GDP on health care than the U.S. does. On top of that, they're healthier! So what we are in fact doing is paying far more to get far less!

But here is one of the main problems with universal health care. Look at all of whom some would call ugly illegal invader scab scum mexicans sneaking into this country. It would most likely be even more of a draw for them to come here if they knew that they would receive medical care that is superior to what they could get in their own country once they got here.


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Impossible to afford it. 20,000,000,000,000 of national debt. prevents it.
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Impossible to afford it. 20,000,000,000,000 of national debt. prevents it.
Yet your present system costs you nearly twice as much as countries with Universal health care.
I’m sure you have some capable people who will be able to work out a system of funding that doesn’t increase the debt, and there are many ways they could achieve this either through private or government controlled schemes
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Yet your present system costs you nearly twice as much as countries with Universal health care.
Iím sure you have some capable people who will be able to work out a system of funding that doesnít increase the debt, and there are many ways they could achieve this either through private or government controlled schemes
But it would be socialist.

They'd sooner be sick and poor and give their money to rich politicians, health company executives and such.
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Old October 26th, 2017, 10:24 AM   #5
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Yet your present system costs you nearly twice as much as countries with Universal health care.
I’m sure you have some capable people who will be able to work out a system of funding that doesn’t increase the debt, and there are many ways they could achieve this either through private or government controlled schemes
Our present system does cost more.. you get what you pay for.

If you get a disease your odds of survival is GREATER in the US.

(when you exclude accidental death killed at the scene of a Car Accident and incedents were people are killed instantly at the scene of the crime, these do not even enter the Healthcare system) the US has the longest life expectancy in the world.


We pay more and we live longer, and we are more likely to be cured of a life threatening disease.

Which would you rather have LESS MONEY or be DEAD?






https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#73e62f9d2b98
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Our present system does cost more.. you get what you pay for.

If you get a disease your odds of survival is GREATER in the US.

(when you exclude accidental death killed at the scene of a Car Accident and incedents were people are killed instantly at the scene of the crime, these do not even enter the Healthcare system) the US has the longest life expectancy in the world.


We pay more and we live longer, and we are more likely to be cured of a life threatening disease.

Which would you rather have LESS MONEY or be DEAD?






https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapot.../#73e62f9d2b98
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" A number of mathematically astute readers have asked why some countries have increased average life expectancies once you take out fatal injuries. I asked Robert Ohsfeldt about this, who responded that the adjustment factor was based on fatal injury rates relative to the average. Hence, the adjusted numbers shouldn't be seen as hard numerical estimates of life expectancy, "
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" A number of mathematically astute readers have asked why some countries have increased average life expectancies once you take out fatal injuries. I asked Robert Ohsfeldt about this, who responded that the adjustment factor was based on fatal injury rates relative to the average. Hence, the adjusted numbers shouldn't be seen as hard numerical estimates of life expectancy, "
Department of HHS. Why?

you see if you fall off a 15 story building, once you hit the sidewalk below, no matter how good healthcare in the area is not going to save you


When you factor these types of incidents out of the "Healthcare" debate. the US has the greatest healthcare system in the world,

Now, what this report says is that Americans live life on the edge.

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Impossible to afford it. 20,000,000,000,000 of national debt. prevents it.

Bernie Sanders admitted this back in the 1980's, that it is unaffordable.

Charlie Gard, yeah that is how they roll in Britain. Wouldn't have cost them either, but Charlie had to die.

Funny how TNV's chart shows far better outcomes in the USA than in the UK. Nice that they worry how much we spend on taking care of ourselves though. Maybe they figure if we went to nationalized medicine we could spend more on defending them?
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California just told everyone it was unaffordable.
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Department of HHS. Why?

you see if you fall off a 15 story building, once you hit the sidewalk below, no matter how good healthcare in the area is not going to save you


When you factor these types of incidents out of the "Healthcare" debate. the US has the greatest healthcare system in the world,

Now, what this report says is that Americans live life on the edge.
If you had mental health coverage, you might not be jumping off a 15 story building, or sucking off a easily available .45 for that matter...
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