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Old December 27th, 2017, 03:38 AM   #1
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Under Trump, Government takes a bigger role in HealthCare

By removing the individual mandate, the role of the federal government will be increased.
Assuming that more people opt of insurance, and that these people are the healthiest people, who were not subsidized.
Rates must rise to account for these premiums no longer paid into the system.
When someone who opts out does contract a costly illness, the expense will fall to Medicaid.
For those receiving subsidies, they still pay based on income, nothing changes for them, the higher premiums are absorbed by the federal government.

So under Trump, the federal government will bear the greatest share of health care it has ever borne.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/26/u...T.nav=top-news


Funny how that works....
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Old December 27th, 2017, 06:31 AM   #2
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No. Wether the money goes through Medicaid or subsidized premiums it’s still paying for the same care. But wait, people with no insurance will pay out of pocket, so that can be subtracted. But wait, people who pay out of pocket won’t see the doctor for trivial stuff, so that can be subtracted.
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No. Wether the money goes through Medicaid or subsidized premiums itís still paying for the same care. But wait, people with no insurance will pay out of pocket, so that can be subtracted. But wait, people who pay out of pocket wonít see the doctor for trivial stuff, so that can be subtracted.
That my friend is a valid point. I have aging parents. I have had to spend some time in the past few years in the E.R. on some occasions. This is what I see. I see the occasional older person. Sometimes a child, usually some babies. Mostly I see late 20's to mid 30's, usually 70% or so are female, and they are on medicaid. They are single moms, using the ER like its a doctors office. The males at that age, ironically are needing a "new script" most of the time, and they are drawing SSDI. Its the poor person scam. It can all end. It can end when we decide to give everyone a base living wage. No more welfare of any kind. One living base wage. You want to have 5 kids and be the single mom. Go for it. You get one base wage like everyone else. It would solve a lot of problems in our society.
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That my friend is a valid point. I have aging parents. I have had to spend some time in the past few years in the E.R. on some occasions. This is what I see. I see the occasional older person. Sometimes a child, usually some babies. Mostly I see late 20's to mid 30's, usually 70% or so are female, and they are on medicaid. They are single moms, using the ER like its a doctors office. The males at that age, ironically are needing a "new script" most of the time, and they are drawing SSDI. Its the poor person scam. It can all end. It can end when we decide to give everyone a base living wage. No more welfare of any kind. One living base wage. You want to have 5 kids and be the single mom. Go for it. You get one base wage like everyone else. It would solve a lot of problems in our society.
And that abuse of the ER increased because of Obamacare, instead of decreasing as promised.
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