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Old January 6th, 2018, 11:55 AM   #51
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Federal law says if you are an emergency hospitals HAVE to treat you, no matter your ability to pay.

If you're NOT an emergency and you can't pay, you will not get treatment at most privately owned hospitals.

I found an article where one hospital chain, HCA, had turned away more than 80,000 people. So I think the total number is likely substantial.
Does this article have a source?
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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:12 PM   #52
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Does this article have a source?
Those are the well known facts about the American medical system.
People who can't pay, don't get treated.

If you have broken leg, they will set it, and put a cast on it.
If you need chemo therapy, you're going to need an insurance card.
Or you're going die without it.

Gypsies show up at Mass General Hospital, with suitcases filled with cash, because they believe Mass General is the best hospital in the country, and they pay cash.
If they thought they could walk in and get heart surgery, and get away without paying, they would, they pay cash, up front.

I use medical services, I make an appointment, I go in, they see me, it's very professional, they have my card, and my card pays everything.
In some countries, it's like that for everyone, every one has the card.

In the US thousands die every year, because they can't afford the care required for them to live.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:19 PM   #53
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I don't know if it is still true since the ACA, and if not, it will be so again thanks to the Republican President.

But the majority of personal bankruptcies in the US are because of medical expenses for people who DO have health insurance.

Love them HMOs.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:21 PM   #54
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Federal law says if you are an emergency hospitals HAVE to treat you, no matter your ability to pay.

If you're NOT an emergency and you can't pay, you will not get treatment at most privately owned hospitals.

I found an article where one hospital chain, HCA, had turned away more than 80,000 people. So I think the total number is likely substantial.
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Those are the well known facts about the American medical system.
People who can't pay, don't get treated.

If you have broken leg, they will set it, and put a cast on it.
If you need chemo therapy, you're going to need an insurance card.
Or you're going die without it.

Gypsies show up at Mass General Hospital, with suitcases filled with cash, because they believe Mass General is the best hospital in the country, and they pay cash.
If they thought they could walk in and get heart surgery, and get away without paying, they would, they pay cash, up front.

I use medical services, I make an appointment, I go in, they see me, it's very professional, they have my card, and my card pays everything.
In some countries, it's like that for everyone, every one has the card.

In the US thousands die every year, because they can't afford the care required for them to live.
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Your editorial is not a source. Do you have a source to cite? Very simple question. Either you do have a source to cite in regards to Bubba's article or you do not.

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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:24 PM   #55
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Federal law says if you are an emergency hospitals HAVE to treat you, no matter your ability to pay.

If you're NOT an emergency and you can't pay, you will not get treatment at most privately owned hospitals.

I found an article where one hospital chain, HCA, had turned away more than 80,000 people. So I think the total number is likely substantial.
Correct ZERO people are turned away from the ER.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:31 PM   #56
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Correct ZERO people are turned away from the ER.

What part of HCA turned away 80,000 people don't you understand ???
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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:34 PM   #57
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What part of HCA turned away 80,000 people don't you understand ???
Why did you never source this? I found it. I think I know why you never did. It was convenient to throw out the 80,000 number, but not to say why.
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More hospitals charge upfront fees for non-urgent care in emergency rooms
https://www.washingtonpost.com/more-...=.033974dc90d8

Yeah, you are right. People using emergency rooms for non-emergency reasons were being asked to pay. Now we know the rest of the story.

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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:44 PM   #58
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What part of HCA turned away 80,000 people don't you understand ???
Nobody can be turned away from the ER, I'm sorry but you' talking out of your well.....you know. I was just in son, the sign is right there on the wall.

If you present with emergency issues they cannot by law turn you away.
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There are many good insights, points, and feedback being brought up, so thanks to everyone who participated in this thread for their input. If I get a chance soon I'll respond with my thoughts regarding responses for this and several other threads I need to get back to. At the moment I only have time to post rather brief responses.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:51 PM   #60
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Your editorial is not a source. Do you have a source to cite? Very simple question. Either you do have a source to cite in regards to Bubba's article or you do not.

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You didn't know that this happened?
Patient dumping accusation leads to $450,000 settlement from Good Samaritan Hospital - LA Times

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/arti...NEWS/160629941

Patient dumping in America: Hospitals discharging sick homeless back onto the street | Fox News

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_ur...=1&oi=scholarr
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