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Old January 4th, 2018, 08:54 AM   #1
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Can you imagine? They don't do this in countries with free markets (or at least somewhat free markets like the US): NHS hospitals ordered to cancel all routine operations in January as flu spike and bed shortages lead to A&E crisis
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Can you imagine? They don't do this in countries with free markets (or at least somewhat free markets like the US): NHS hospitals ordered to cancel all routine operations in January as flu spike and bed shortages lead to A&E crisis

You are absolutely right. Our FOR PROFIT system would NEVER sacrifice a single dime's worth of income for the sake of the PATIENT'S HEALTH. No Sir, they'd go right ahead and insist on dragging an otherwise healthy person INTO A BUILDING ALREADY FILLED TO OVER FLOWING WITH INFECTIOUS DISEASE !! They'd absolutely risk letting you catch a post operative infection in their pursuit of the almighty dollar. Why in god's name would they want to tie up a bed with something as mundane as the flu when SURGERIES create MUCH LARGER BILLS !!!!


Here what DOES happen in our wonderful system. A business associate of mine is in some serious pain right now. The fix is fairly simple, just an injection. Now even though it's the first of the year and he has to start over on his deductible, meaning the injection while be an out of pocket expense NOT paid by insurance, HE STILL HAS TO WAIT FOR INSURANCE APPROVAL !!! He asked the doctor about just paying for it up front but the insurance company has some policy about if he pays for it, they won't cover ANY future treatment for that ailment. So if pays for it himself and later this year need surgery they won't pay. So there he was in his office trying to run his business while in pain. His pain meds had worn off and he didn't want to take another pill because it was afternoon and he had to drive home.

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Can you imagine? They don't do this in countries with free markets (or at least somewhat free markets like the US): NHS hospitals ordered to cancel all routine operations in January as flu spike and bed shortages lead to A&E crisis
I don't live in England. *shrug*

By "routine" you know as well as I do that you really mean "elective" and "non-emergency" surgeries. A perfectly reasonable response to a flu epidemic and resulting shortage of bed space.
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You are absolutely right. Our FOR PROFIT system would NEVER sacrifice a single dime's worth of income for the sake of the PATIENT'S HEALTH. No Sir, they'd go right ahead and insist on dragging an otherwise healthy person INTO A BUILDING ALREADY FILLED TO OVER FLOWING WITH INFECTIOUS DISEASE !! They'd absolutely risk letting you catch a post operative infection in their pursuit of the almighty dollar. Why in god's name would they want to tie up a bed with something as mundane as the flu when SURGERIES create MUCH LARGER BILLS !!!!
You're right letting people SUFFER AND DIE is beneficial for the patients in Canada...

Top court strikes down Quebec private health-care ban - Canada - CBC News
As a result of delays in receiving tests and surgeries, patients have suffered and even died in some cases, justices Beverley McLachlin, Jack Major, Michel Bastarache and Marie Deschamps found for the majority.
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You're right letting people SUFFER AND DIE is beneficial for the patients in Canada...

Top court strikes down Quebec private health-care ban - Canada - CBC News
As a result of delays in receiving tests and surgeries, patients have suffered and even died in some cases, justices Beverley McLachlin, Jack Major, Michel Bastarache and Marie Deschamps found for the majority.
Oh, the DRAMA!!!!
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You're right letting people SUFFER AND DIE is beneficial for the patients in Canada...

Top court strikes down Quebec private health-care ban - Canada - CBC News
As a result of delays in receiving tests and surgeries, patients have suffered and even died in some cases, justices Beverley McLachlin, Jack Major, Michel Bastarache and Marie Deschamps found for the majority.
And people right here in this country PATIENTS HAVE SUFFERED AND DIED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE !!!

We do have some of the best health care in the world IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT !!!!!
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Can you imagine? They don't do this in countries with free markets (or at least somewhat free markets like the US): NHS hospitals ordered to cancel all routine operations in January as flu spike and bed shortages lead to A&E crisis

Morals. Decency.
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Morals. Decency.
Yes, they Morally and Decently let people suffer and die.

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Yes, they Morally and Decently let people suffer and die.

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Don't live in Canada. *shrug*
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Don't live in Canada. *shrug*
And that could be why you and I are alive today.
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