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Old March 21st, 2013, 06:14 AM   #41
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So we should just allow anyone and everyone unencumbered citizenship and open up our borders? Is this your point?

This thread is in desperate need of a point.
Case & Point!

Sure fire way to stop illegal immigration


Stop the magnet! Arrest all the employers that are hiring the illegal immigrants illegally and they will stop coming, no chance for employment will end their migration!
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Old March 21st, 2013, 06:16 AM   #42
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I am not defending illegal immigration or saying that it isn't bad in Arizona right now. But it is happening there and everywhere else that illegal immigrants are working. They use fake names or fake SS#'s and they pay taxes on their income.
There are strict laws and ID requirements employers have to follow; are you claiming that they are hiring illegal immigrants using fake ID and fake SS numbers and that the taxes associated with those fake numbers and IDs are merely collected with no questions asked?
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Old March 21st, 2013, 06:18 AM   #43
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How do "illegal" aliens pay taxes? Please elaborate and have something more than just "opinion".

HINT; you have to have a valid Social Security number to pay taxes.
Well it is called IDENTETY THIEFT... is how they pay taxes. Or if they dont pay the taxes you may meet one of Obama's new hires.. from the IRS saying

Your assets have been frozen and you are facing 8 years in jail.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 06:19 AM   #44
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Case & Point!

Sure fire way to stop illegal immigration


Stop the magnet! Arrest all the employers that are hiring the illegal immigrants illegally and they will stop coming, no chance for employment will end their migration!
So it is your contention that companies are ignoring our laws risking fines and incarceration in their greedy efforts to reduce their cost of labor and increase profits?
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Old March 21st, 2013, 06:22 AM   #45
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I am not defending illegal immigration or saying that it isn't bad in Arizona right now. But it is happening there and everywhere else that illegal immigrants are working. They use fake names or fake SS#'s and they pay taxes on their income.
So you are saying that every illegal immigrant that is working and paying taxes are FELONS..


(Identity theift) is a felony..

If I use your SS number I commit ID THIEFT BY DOING SO.

so they committed a crime comming here illegally, then the commit Identity thieft to get a job..

What is the fastest growing crime in the US..

Social Security Publications

Identity theft is one of the fastest growing crimes in America. A dishonest person who has your Social Security number can use it to get other personal information about you. Identity thieves can use your number and your good credit to apply for more credit in your name. Then, they use the credit cards and do not pay the bills. You may not find out that someone is using your number until you are turned down for credit or you begin to get calls from unknown creditors demanding payment for items you never bought.

Someone illegally using your Social Security number and assuming your identity can cause a lot of problems
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Old March 21st, 2013, 06:22 AM   #46
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Well it is called IDENTETY THIEFT... is how they pay taxes. Or if they dont pay the taxes you may meet one of Obama's new hires.. from the IRS saying

Your assets have been frozen and you are facing 8 years in jail.
There are two problems with this contention; (1) it presumes that illegal aliens have the sophistication to falsify social security numbers and obtain a false State drivers license or birth certificate; and (2) it presumes that false documents used to pay and assign taxes to cannot be verified by the State or Feds.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 06:24 AM   #47
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Click on my link or google it. It's right there. 8 million II's have paid into our system and the facts support that.
If they are illegal, how are they being counted? And if they can be counted why can't they be deported for breaking our laws?
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Old March 21st, 2013, 06:29 AM   #48
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The facts about the people that are paing into the system state that they pay about 80,000 dollars more than they get back out of the system.
There are not "facts" unless you can present something more than a "claim" from a blog site devoted to lying.

Are there any credible Government reports that account for all these "taxes" being paid by "illegal" residents?
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If you think Tommy Chong is a credible spokesperson on immigration, you just might be a low information voter.
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clownish cartoon thinking to claim most conservatives oppose immigration.

what part of illegal confuses you ?(liberals)
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