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Old July 14th, 2015, 09:21 AM   #1
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Why do we have Sanctuary Cities??

List of Sanctuary cities

this is a list of sanctuary cities and there are ALOT! none in Tennessee though. On June 5, 2009, the Tennessee state House passed a bill banning the implementation of sanctuary city policies within the state of Tennessee. why do these cities allow illegals who have committed crimes to go free? I don't get it??

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The term Sanctuary city is given to cities in the United States or Canada that have policies designed to shelter illegal immigrants. These practices can be by law (de jure) or they can be by habit (de facto). The term generally applies to cities that do not allow municipal funds or resources to be used to enforce federal immigration laws, usually by not allowing police or municipal employees to inquire about an individual's immigration status.

these cities prevent police from inquiring about the immigration status of arrestees. why? if illegal immigration is a crime why is it illegal to ask about an arrestees immigration status??

Revealed: 276 'sanctuary cities' let 8,145 illegal offenders free in just 8 months, 17,000 total | Washington Examiner

The Center for Immigration Studies, revealing new numbers it received under the Freedom of Information Act, said that those releases from cities that ignored federal demands came over just eight months and are just part of an even larger release of 17,000 illegals with criminal records.

Author Jessica M. Vaughan, director of policy Studies for the center, also reported that many of those illegals have been rearrested after their release and charged with nearly 7,500 new charges, including child sex abuse.

The new federal documents show that there are at least 276 sanctuary cities, more than the 200 previously believed, and are in 43 states, also more than previously revealed. Instead of turning illegal immigrants facing criminal charges over to ICE under its "detainer" rule, the sanctuaries simply ignore the request in many cases let the illegals go.

The majority, 5,132, had past criminal records, like Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez, the illegal previously deported five times and now charged with murdering 32-year-old Kate Steinle. Of those, 2,984 had a prior felony conviction or charge.

And, 1,867 offenders who were released were re-arrested, accumulating 7,491 new charges, including child sex abuse. Vaughan's report found that 10 percent of the new charges involved dangerous drugs and seven percent were for driving under the influence of alcohol.


some of these people are committing horrible violent crimes that could have been prevented! so who started the idea of a "sanctuary city" and why??

Amid sanctuary city debate, Obama administration takes heat for pulling plug on enforcement program | Fox News
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Old July 14th, 2015, 04:01 PM   #2
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36 people have read this and NO one has an opinion!? amazing!

I guess our whole country is just 1 big giant sanctuary anyway.

if the cops ask for ID they are profiling racists..
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Because the feds refuse to act against them. Now Obama, he took Arizona to court, and the court ruled immigration is a federal matter. So those cities have no leg to stand on. Crickets from Obama though.


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How rich. When cities or states pass laws defying the President, they are "constitutional". But not under this time. What a bunch of hypocritical confusing and forked tongued people the republicans are.

'Sanctuary cities' not changing policies after San Francisco shooting

[QUOTE]More than 200 cities around the country have passed laws in recent years prohibiti

ng law enforcement officers from detaining suspects based solely on requests from Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents. While many examined their policies in the wake of the July 1 San Francisco shooting, none has reported a decision to make a change.


Miami-Dade County Commissioner Sally Heyman said the shooting was a tragic "breakdown of the system" that allowed an undocumented immigrant with an extensive criminal history to be set free. But she warned about a "knee-jerk reaction" of using local police as de-facto immigration agents.

"I don't see that we would make a change. I would fight it," she said. "If the only reason someone is in custody is an ICE hold, we're not doing it."

People arrested by local law enforcement already have their fingerprints sent to the FBI to check if they are wanted for crimes in other jurisdictions. At the heart of the debate in many sanctuary cities is a federal program that also forwards those fingerprints to the Department of Homeland Security to check for immigration violations.


If a person is found to have immigration violations on their record, ICE agents can request the local agency to hold onto that person for up to 48 hours after they're cleared of local charges. But in recent years, local agencies have fought back.


Some, like Miami-Dade County, were upset over the cost of the program. Holding immigrants for ICE after they paid their bond or completed their jail sentences cost the county more than $1 million in 2011, according to Heyman's office.

In a resolution passed last year by Cambridge, Mass., the city said the program was being abused by ICE to round up undocumented immigrants with little to no criminal record, undermining their relationship with the local community. According to the resolution, 75% of ICE detainers issued from 2008 to 2011 were placed on undocumented immigrants with no criminal history.

ICE says it has worked to address the concerns of local law enforcement agencies in the past few years by focusing more heavily on undocumented immigrants with extensive criminal histories, and those who are members of criminal gangs or pose a threat to national security. In 2008, 38% of people deported from the country had a criminal conviction on their record, according to ICE. By 2014, that figure had risen to 85%.

"The agency remains committed to working collaboratively with its law enforcement partners to ensure the public's safety," ICE spokeswoman Gillian Christensen said in a statement.

Some local law enforcement offices also say the federal program is simply illegal. Johnson County (Kansas) Sheriff Frank Denning points to a U.S. District Court decision out of Oregon last year that ruled in favor of a woman who was incarcerated for 15 days solely on a request from ICE. There was no judicial order or warrant. That, according to U.S. Magistrate Judge Janice Stewart, violated the woman's Fourth Amendment protections against illegal search and seizure.[/QUOTE]

These laws help protect the basic rights of people. But then, that's not a concern of those republican/teabaggers. Many of these cities are in teabagging governor states. That knee jerk reaction to the President concept.
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What do these illegal people do for work besides steal or sell dope? One thing is to arrest people who hire illegal people "under the table" as it were, charge them of a felony and put them in jail for a year on a first offense. That would stop a lot of this. This is social security and tax fraud, right? Pretty simple, see someone hiring and working illegals....call the Internal Revenue Service. The IRS loves to bust people cheating them.

People who want to get a Drivers License will need to have a Social Security card. To get a Social Security card, one has to show an American Birth Certificate or show documentation of Alien Legal status. To work, one has to have a Social Security Card and a Picture ID from the State.

All the people who are illegal?

I forgot the Amendment, but the rule/law that a child born in the USA is an American regardless of the status of the citizenship of the mother needs to be done away with. If the mother is a foreigner, so is the child. If the foreign woman is married to an American, something can be fairly worked out.

Canada needs to take a lot of these Mexicans. Big country, let them have them too!
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What do these illegal people do for work besides steal or sell dope? One thing is to arrest people who hire illegal people "under the table" as it were, charge them of a felony and put them in jail for a year on a first offense. That would stop a lot of this. This is social security and tax fraud, right? Pretty simple, see someone hiring and working illegals....call the Internal Revenue Service. The IRS loves to bust people cheating them.

People who want to get a Drivers License will need to have a Social Security card. To get a Social Security card, one has to show an American Birth Certificate or show documentation of Alien Legal status. To work, one has to have a Social Security Card and a Picture ID from the State.

All the people who are illegal?

I forgot the Amendment, but the rule/law that a child born in the USA is an American regardless of the status of the citizenship of the mother needs to be done away with. If the mother is a foreigner, so is the child. If the foreign woman is married to an American, something can be fairly worked out.

Canada needs to take a lot of these Mexicans. Big country, let them have them too!

They are hired by american corporations, like Trump Industries, to do labor for slave wages. The american corporations who REFUSE to hire Americans.
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They are hired by american corporations, like Trump Industries, to do labor for slave wages. The american corporations who REFUSE to hire Americans.
I kinda agree with you on this one. American workers would be part of a union, demand $25/hour for what an illegal will do for $5, and work about 3hours out of an 8 hour day.
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I kinda agree with you on this one. American workers would be part of a union, demand $25/hour for what an illegal will do for $5, and work about 3hours out of an 8 hour day.
And THAT is exactly why a Republican will NEVER do anything significant about the illegal immigrant problem.
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And THAT is exactly why a Republican will NEVER do anything significant about the illegal immigrant problem.
Yeah, and Union workers spend a lot of time bitching about their pay and benefits which are usually much better than most.
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Yeah, and Union workers spend a lot of time bitching about their pay and benefits which are usually much better than most.
And you have something against American working men & women earning good pay and having good benefits? Want to hear the howling outrage from the RW if I even suggest American CEO's & senior management "earn too much", or that corporate profits are "too high?"
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