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Old June 28th, 2011, 03:12 PM   #1
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Old June 28th, 2011, 04:06 PM   #2
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Liberalism?



How about the trigger-happy neoconservatism, which uses Islam for its excuse to be the world's cop? How about "The Fed" which eats away from the inside at our economic system for its NWO objectives?
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Liberalism?



How about the trigger-happy neoconservatism, which uses Islam for its excuse to be the world's cop? How about "The Fed" which eats away from the inside at our economic system for its NWO objectives?




Our government has used more than just Islam as the basis for sticking its nose in other peoples' business (i.e. "world's cop") for decades...



I'll respond more later...a few things have just come up and I have to go.



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30 years of conservative economic policy, corporate welfare, favoring the rich, forcing people to negotiate their health care with a profit based system, celebrating stupidity and mocking our best and brightest as elitist, teaching our kids that art, music and theater are not important, keeping the masses ignorant with fundamentalist anti-science religion and embarking on a campaign of aggression for no other reason than to keep war profiteers happy is why this country is in the shitter....to blame liberals for that is laughable.
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30 years of conservative economic policy, corporate welfare, favoring the rich, forcing people to negotiate their health care with a profit based system, celebrating stupidity and mocking our best and brightest as elitist, teaching our kids that art, music and theater are not important, keeping the masses ignorant with fundamentalist anti-science religion and embarking on a campaign of aggression for no other reason than to keep war profiteers happy is why this country is in the shitter....to blame liberals for that is laughable.


Your understanding of what conservatism and liberalism in this day and age is grossly inaccurate.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 05:07 PM   #6
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Here's a suicide angle:





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I had five seconds to make the secretive most powerful man in the world like me so I could potentially make millions. “James,” Bill McCluskey said to me, “this is Alan Quasha.” Bill was CEO of Brean Murray, one of the mini-banks I considered selling my fund of hedge funds to in 2006. We had a deal on the table and I was desperate at the time to make it work. The table was circular, there were papers on it with numbers, I was bullshitting every which way I could about “synergies”. Whatever. That was months later. But first I had to meet Alan Quasha, the owner of Brean Murray, at an event they were throwing, and he had to like me. Because…






(Have you heard of Alan Quasha before this post? And there he is with Ivan Boesky's daughter. Go figure.)



Alan Quasha squinted his eyes, shook my hand. He had no idea who I was. I certainly wasn’t anything like George W. Bush, the man Quasha had personally saved in 1986. The man Bush owes his sobriety to. In 1986 Bush was CEO of some oil company that was going down in flames. Possibly the worst oil company in Texas history.



Some calls were made and Quasha’s Harken Oil bought Bush’s company for millions of dollars. Then, of course, a few years later, Bush sold his shares in Quasha’s Harkin Oil right before Harkin Oil announced a mega-loss and the stock tanked. Bush used his profits to buy a stake in the Texas Rangers, sold that stake later for 10-15 million dollars and was finally able to follow his father’s sage advice (“don’t go into politics until you get rich” ***).



Let’s spell out what that means: if Alan Quasha called up W on September 12, 2001 in the middle of Bush pouring over maps of the jungles of Afghanistan to see where we would invade (do they have jungles in Afghanistan? Do we really need an “h” in Afghanistan?), Bush would say “hold all calls”, close the doors of the Oval Office and say “Hi Daddy Number 2?, to Quasha. He owed his life, his livelihood, the Texas Rangers, the Presidency, all to Alan Quasha and now I was shaking Quasha’s hand. I had five seconds to make Alan Quasha like me almost as much as he liked Bush so he would buy my company. Why? Alan Quasha was Chairman of Brean Murray.



Fast-forward about ten seconds. Alan Quasha had moved on. Now I was being introduced to Terry Mcauliffe. Terry was the Vice-Chairman of Brean Murray. Terry was known in most circles as “Bill Clinton’s best friend”. Terry raised the bulk of the money for the two Presidential campaigns that Bill was in (the first, of course, where he crushed Bush, the Elder). I’m guessing Terry also raised the money for all of Hillary’s political races. If Chelsea Clinton ever ran for Mayor of New York (now that Weiner is out of the running so you never know) I bet Terry would raise all the money for her race as well.



So there you have it. The biggest mastermind in Republican politics, the behind the scenes mover and shaker across the entire Bush family, was Chairman of the company. And the biggest mover-and-shaker in Democrat politics, was Vice Chairman. The war of values, between Democracy and Republicanism that our founders had fought for, had shed blood for, was over between them, if it ever even existed. Screw “The Federalist Papers”! Let’s make some money!



You see why your vote is useless? Not only is it useless, it’s scary. A female friend of mine told me: “it was like the biggest orgasm I had felt in the past 10 years of my marriage” when Obama became President.



But then what happened? Obama extended Bush’s tax cuts, kept Bush’s Secretary of Defense, extended the wars in Afganistan and Iraq, didn’t close Guantanamo Bay, and fought for a healthcare that’s now being disputed (and overturned) in every court in America. What else has he done? I can’t think of it. Planned Parenthood has less government funding now than under Bush. Africa has less funding from the US than under Bush (in fact, Obama has bombed Africa / Libya).






And yet we all fought so much. “Palin is an idiot!” “Biden can’t speak straight!” “Where’s Obama’s birth certificate!” “Is McCain senile?”! “!”!”!” Let’s fight in the streets and pass out pamphlets and wear buttons and lose friends (“I can’t believe he’s voting for Nader!”) and stick on bumper stickers that can never be scratched off once we realize they are as embarrassing as that magic dragon tattoo we got lasered across our backs when we were 17.



We fought so hard for beliefs we all thought we had and where do they all end up? Where does it all congeal together right before it flushes down the toilet?



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One is Chairman and the other is Vice-Chairman of the same company. They’re all laughing together. Slapping backs. Making Money. They are laughing at you and me, my friend. The war is over for them.



We voted them all in there, they served their time, and now they are minting money as if they own the printing press. I watched Quasha and McCaulliffe laugh, sitting next to each other when they used to pretend to be sitting so far apart.



They have no idea who I am, what I want out of life, what ideas I think are good or bad, or would save the world, or whatever. They were laughing as hard as they could just ten feet from me and I knew while I stood there watching them, hoping beyond hope that they would share some of the wealth, I knew that they were laughing at me.








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The Clintons were certainly not the example of the uber liberal. Not really. They were far too comfortably corporately influenced and active in raising corporate dollars. So yes, Bill Clinton is much more cozy than Obama, with that set of ultra rich real power brokers that are beyond party , the super rich upper crust elites that run industry and the world. However, Obama is gaining on them and has surrounded himself with people as advisers who are fully versed with the NWO and it's army. That's why I laugh so hard when people accuse him of being a communist. Seriously? This man, who is so deep in Wall St. crony territory it isn't funny, this man who had or has quite a few republicans in very important cabinet posts, is no far left wing ideologue. He's not even a liberal.



Don't blame Islam for any of this. Blame the same old people that are always to blame in this present kind of caustic planetary atmosphere. That secretive group of international bankers holding the world by the purse strings, running countries and making wars. It is the money that runs the show and NOTHING else. Here's an interesting group to look into, and so very revealing when you simply read who runs it and what it does. The Carlyle Group.



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Right, actually Clinton ran as an FDR liberal but I think it was before he was sworn into office; he had a nice sit down with Allen Greenspan and Robert Ruben. Let’s just say they told him the facts of life and if Clinton went along with their conservative plan, he would be greatly rewarded. And he did
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Right, actually Clinton ran as an FDR liberal but I think it was before he was sworn into office; he had a nice sit down with Allen Greenspan and Robert Ruben. Let’s just say they told him the facts of life and if Clinton went along with their conservative plan, he would be greatly rewarded. And he did


You do realize that Clinton had a chance to get Bin Laden during his presidency...and there were things he could have done to have stopped a lot of events that took place in the future; every Present over the past 40 years has made this country worse, especially Obama...internally more externally that is.



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Right, actually Clinton ran as an FDR liberal but I think it was before he was sworn into office; he had a nice sit down with Allen Greenspan and Robert Ruben. Let’s just say they told him the facts of life and if Clinton went along with their conservative plan, he would be greatly rewarded. And he did


You do realize that Clinton had a chance to get Bin Laden during his presidency...and there were things he could have done to have stopped a lot of events that took place in the future; every Present over the past 40 years has made this country worse, especially Obama...internally more externally that is.



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Actually there were no evidence that Bin Laden had committed any crimes against American citizens at the time. We can still blame Bush for 9/11.



http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/cli...ing-bin-laden/



And actually Bill Clinton created about 23 million jobs before he left office and Obama saved millions of jobs after Bush destroyed our economy implementing Reaganomics again. As mentioned before no president is perfect but it's fact that democratic presidents are better with dealing with the economy than republicans.
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