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Old March 18th, 2012, 09:38 AM   #1
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Am I the only one or have many Americans asked themselves, why do Liberals, Progressives, Left wingers, whatever you want to be called, why do you have such intolerance towards Christians. After hearing Obama speak down to Christians when he said “Christians cling to their God and guns” I thought he was done for. I thought how can even the Liberal media silence this story but of course I was wrong. If the GOP had made a condescending remark like that towards Gays or African Americans or feminists, etc. the outrage from the liberal media would have been non stop. Liberal intolerance towards Christians is bigotry pure and simple. When any government, people or political group tear down a particular group of people, it is BIGOTRY! When we think of Bigotry we generally think of race, skin color, etc. but bigotry has many forms.



Over the years I have witnessed many instances of hypocrisy and bigotry towards Christians. One example comes to mind… Jimmy Swaggart… remember him? His sin was of a sexual nature but he was mainly attacked for his sin of hypocrisy and was forced to step down(rightfully so). The outcry from the left was deafening, the insults and jokes from the media went on for years. I always wondered how was his sin of hypocrisy any worse from other’s sins we see every day… women and men creating babies out of wedlock forcing tax payers to support them. Drug addicts choosing to take illegal drugs, getting addicted and ask tax payers to support them. Drunk drivers killing people, etc. etc. I could go on and on but you get the point. Why is it only when a Christian sins there is outrage from the left.



The left claim to support Women’s rights but if you are a Christian woman such as Sarah Palin, you are attacked horribly. I wondered what evil things Sarah had done to get such animosity from Democrats.and the media. Where was their respect and tolerance for a successful woman Governor. Well, the bigotry came across very clearly, she was a Christian and dared speak of her faith. Rick Santorum seems like a decent kind of guy and seems to have some good ideas about balancing the budget etc. but what do you hear from the left? He’s a right wing Christian fanatic!!!!! Wow, can you believe how he is instantly labeled a fanatic for one reason… he actually dared to make his faith public. CRUCIFY HIM, BURN HIM AT THE STAKE! You Liberals are very scary dangerous people. If we don’t think like you, believe in your evolution theories, support your free abortions, agree with Gay marriage, etc. then we are labeled fanatics, homophobes, Zealots, etc. You continually spread your propoganda that Christians are out to make moral laws and prevent you from your personal freedoms… HOGWASH! You Liberals are Christianphobes.



Today after 40 years of Progressive thought? We have Police officers in our junior high schools! Huge problems with drugs, alcohol, sexual permissiveness. We spend unbelievable amounts of money on our schools and our grades are pathetic. Go figure. Their answer is always the same, more money. They have nothing else, discussions of cultural values are censored. They call those who mention God or moral values “fanatics, right winger bible thumpers”. This paranoia and bigotry toward Christians censors the very dialogue that just may lead to solutions concerning the breakdown in families. Progressives, you would sentence the next thousand generations of kids to miserable lives from broken homes all because you fear any dialogue mentioning morals.



Conservatives and Christians are not trying to force others to believe in God, we are trying to open a dialogue on values, common sense values where once again we might actually have a majority of kids with both Mother and Father at home. We might once again teach our children that sex before love and marriage is a huge burden on our nation. Am I talking about legislating new moral laws? Of course not but that is exactly what Progressives would have you believe. Scare tactics to hold down the Conservative voice. Santorum speaks about finding ways to keep children from accessing porn and the Left does it's usual scare tactics... "Santorum will censor Porn from all of America" "Santorum will out law birth control" LOL, he has no plans of mandating moral laws. If you want to look at a scary person who has ALREADY shown he WILL mandate his morals upon ALL Americans, look at Obama. His healthcare bill is an unbelievable attack on our freedoms and people on the left give him a free pass while they rant on about exaggerations of what Santorum might do. I'm no Santorum supporter so if you think this you miss the entire point.



Be afraid, very afraid, but not against Christians. Be afraid of any political party that mandates and forces Americans to follow another's ideology. America is not socialist, we want to keep our rights to own guns, smoke cigarettes, eat fatty foods, have a Christmas school pageant. We want our freedoms to NOT buy health insurance, not have to provide health insurance when we start businesses, stay out of someone's bedroom where Obama forces us to buy their abortion pills. I want the freedom to rent MY home to anyone I choose and the freedom to kick them out if they do not pay their rent. I want the freedom to have camp fires, go fishing without wearing a life jacket, I could go on and on and on. America was once the home of the free! Today it is being taken over by Socialists with all their mandates. WAKE UP, Christians are not the ones to fear.
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I wonder if the libbie lefties ever wonder about how their continual attacks on Christians and their consistent denigration of the Christian faith encourages bullying of Christians at schools and in the workplace?
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Oh, yeah like christians never bullied anyone through history. Come on, I have this one guy I know and all he does is preach about God and how everyone

who disagrees with him will be damned to hell. I'm just like, okay buddy whatever. Ever see the Express, It's a movie about a football player in the sixties and when

he was 10, he decided he wanted to play football because he found out how fast he was when he was being chased by 4 christian kids who had tried to rob him

and beat him up because he was black and he deserved it. WTF!!! Yeah, get bullied my ass.
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Like hardly a conclusive case whatever
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I think you two are over reacting. Christians pretty much control the world, just like you want so stop whining about how some people dislike religion.
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“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?
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This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?




Want to give us the correct quote instead of the usual childish name calling?
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Originally Posted by knowuryder' timestamp='1332097087' post='390428

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“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?




Want to give us the correct quote instead of the usual childish name calling?


The quote is wrong. I am not the one who posted a lie.



The liar can correct himself and apologize or remain a liar.



You usually don't mind remaining a liar, so I am thinking the OP may not have an issue with it either.
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“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?




Want to give us the correct quote instead of the usual childish name calling?


The correct quote:



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"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."


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Old March 18th, 2012, 11:21 AM   #11
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“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?
I never said it was an exact quote. The words I mentioned are very close to what he said and the meaning was clear. A condescending remark from arrogant Eletists who look down at anyone that doesn't buy into their humanist, evolutionary theories. But it is not just that because they give the Islamic religion a free ride with no outrage. Why do you suppose that is? Terrorists of the Islamic religion justified killing 3000 people in the trade center attack and was there an outcry from Liberals over that hideous act? Nah, they are more worried about what Santorum said about child access to porn.
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“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?
I never said it was an exact quote. The words I mentioned are very close to what he said and the meaning was clear. A condescending remark from arrogant Eletists who look down at anyone that doesn't buy into their humanist, evolutionary theories. But it is not just that because they give the Islamic religion a free ride with no outrage. Why do you suppose that is? Terrorists of the Islamic religion justified killing 3000 people in the trade center attack and was there an outcry from Liberals over that hideous act? Nah, they are more worried about what Santorum said about child access to porn.


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Terrorists of the Islamic religion justified killing 3000 people in the trade center attack and was there an outcry from Liberals over that hideous act?


Another lie....wow, have you ever once told the truth?



The president NEVER said "Christians cling to guns and god"....and what he did say is not even close to that.



What he did say is true however, and maybe you should look at that and ask yourself why that is true instead of attacking the president.
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“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?
I never said it was an exact quote. The words I mentioned are very close to what he said and the meaning was clear. A condescending remark from arrogant Eletists who look down at anyone that doesn't buy into their humanist, evolutionary theories. But it is not just that because they give the Islamic religion a free ride with no outrage. Why do you suppose that is? Terrorists of the Islamic religion justified killing 3000 people in the trade center attack and was there an outcry from Liberals over that hideous act? Nah, they are more worried about what Santorum said about child access to porn.


,,,by the way, here is what you said:
After hearing Obama speak down to Christians when he said “Christians cling to their God and guns” I thought he was done for.


You said he said it, you put it in quotes....in the real world this is to reference an EXACT quote. If it was a paraphrase, you never said that.






Maybe you need to communicate more clearly.
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“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?
I never said it was an exact quote. The words I mentioned are very close to what he said and the meaning was clear. A condescending remark from arrogant Eletists who look down at anyone that doesn't buy into their humanist, evolutionary theories. But it is not just that because they give the Islamic religion a free ride with no outrage. Why do you suppose that is? Terrorists of the Islamic religion justified killing 3000 people in the trade center attack and was there an outcry from Liberals over that hideous act? Nah, they are more worried about what Santorum said about child access to porn.
I watched the video of what Obama said and I stand by my statement. It was a hideous condescending remark. How would you have liked it if Bush had said, well in times of hardships African Americans cling to Reverend Jesse Jackson and basketball. How would you like that? Do you think the Liberal media would have been silent?
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[quote name='knowuryder' timestamp='1332097087' post='390428']

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“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?
I never said it was an exact quote. The words I mentioned are very close to what he said and the meaning was clear. A condescending remark from arrogant Eletists who look down at anyone that doesn't buy into their humanist, evolutionary theories. But it is not just that because they give the Islamic religion a free ride with no outrage. Why do you suppose that is? Terrorists of the Islamic religion justified killing 3000 people in the trade center attack and was there an outcry from Liberals over that hideous act? Nah, they are more worried about what Santorum said about child access to porn.
I watched the video of what Obama said and I stand by my statement. It was a hideous condescending remark. How would you have liked it if Bush had said, well in times of hardships African Americans cling to Reverend Jesse Jackson and basketball. How would you like that? Do you think the Liberal media would have been silent?

[/quote]



It is hardly the same thing, because Obama did not single out white people, interesting that you did.



Maybe you are the racist here.
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Oh, yeah like christians never bullied anyone through history. Come on, I have this one guy I know and all he does is preach about God and how everyone

who disagrees with him will be damned to hell. I'm just like, okay buddy whatever. Ever see the Express, It's a movie about a football player in the sixties and when

he was 10, he decided he wanted to play football because he found out how fast he was when he was being chased by 4 christian kids who had tried to rob him

and beat him up because he was black and he deserved it. WTF!!! Yeah, get bullied my ass.
LOL, so only Christians chased someone down the road? You can find any person in any group that has done bad things. That says nothing about the group or the religion.
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[quote name='knowuryder' timestamp='1332097087' post='390428']

Quote:
“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?
I never said it was an exact quote. The words I mentioned are very close to what he said and the meaning was clear. A condescending remark from arrogant Eletists who look down at anyone that doesn't buy into their humanist, evolutionary theories. But it is not just that because they give the Islamic religion a free ride with no outrage. Why do you suppose that is? Terrorists of the Islamic religion justified killing 3000 people in the trade center attack and was there an outcry from Liberals over that hideous act? Nah, they are more worried about what Santorum said about child access to porn.
I watched the video of what Obama said and I stand by my statement. It was a hideous condescending remark. How would you have liked it if Bush had said, well in times of hardships African Americans cling to Reverend Jesse Jackson and basketball. How would you like that? Do you think the Liberal media would have been silent?

[/quote]



It is hardly the same thing, because Obama did not single out white people, interesting that you did.



Maybe you are the racist here.

[/quote]LOL, maybe I've wasted enough time talking to you about knit picking things and nothing about the bases of my remarks. Hmmmmm... that kind of speaks to what I was saying. Fear mongering, demonizing the group on trivial exaggerated comments to get the discussion away from the important messages such as the broken family, etc. perhaps?
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[quote name='concerned' timestamp='1332099111' post='390455']

[quote name='concerned' timestamp='1332098502' post='390446']

[quote name='knowuryder' timestamp='1332097087' post='390428']

Quote:
“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?
I never said it was an exact quote. The words I mentioned are very close to what he said and the meaning was clear. A condescending remark from arrogant Eletists who look down at anyone that doesn't buy into their humanist, evolutionary theories. But it is not just that because they give the Islamic religion a free ride with no outrage. Why do you suppose that is? Terrorists of the Islamic religion justified killing 3000 people in the trade center attack and was there an outcry from Liberals over that hideous act? Nah, they are more worried about what Santorum said about child access to porn.
I watched the video of what Obama said and I stand by my statement. It was a hideous condescending remark. How would you have liked it if Bush had said, well in times of hardships African Americans cling to Reverend Jesse Jackson and basketball. How would you like that? Do you think the Liberal media would have been silent?

[/quote]



It is hardly the same thing, because Obama did not single out white people, interesting that you did.



Maybe you are the racist here.

[/quote]LOL, maybe I've wasted enough time talking to you about knit picking things and nothing about the bases of my remarks. Hmmmmm... that kind of speaks to what I was saying. Fear mongering, demonizing the group on trivial exaggerated comments to get the discussion away from the important messages such as the broken family, etc. perhaps?

[/quote]





Get used to ryder.



He is childish and mean spirited like the rest of the DTT gay mafia.
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[quote name='concerned' timestamp='1332099111' post='390455']

[quote name='concerned' timestamp='1332098502' post='390446']

[quote name='knowuryder' timestamp='1332097087' post='390428']

Quote:
“Christians cling to their God and guns”


This is a misquote, he never said this.



Why do right wing shills LIE all the time?
I never said it was an exact quote. The words I mentioned are very close to what he said and the meaning was clear. A condescending remark from arrogant Eletists who look down at anyone that doesn't buy into their humanist, evolutionary theories. But it is not just that because they give the Islamic religion a free ride with no outrage. Why do you suppose that is? Terrorists of the Islamic religion justified killing 3000 people in the trade center attack and was there an outcry from Liberals over that hideous act? Nah, they are more worried about what Santorum said about child access to porn.
I watched the video of what Obama said and I stand by my statement. It was a hideous condescending remark. How would you have liked it if Bush had said, well in times of hardships African Americans cling to Reverend Jesse Jackson and basketball. How would you like that? Do you think the Liberal media would have been silent?

[/quote]



It is hardly the same thing, because Obama did not single out white people, interesting that you did.



Maybe you are the racist here.

[/quote]LOL, maybe I've wasted enough time talking to you about knit picking things and nothing about the bases of my remarks. Hmmmmm... that kind of speaks to what I was saying. Fear mongering, demonizing the group on trivial exaggerated comments to get the discussion away from the important messages such as the broken family, etc. perhaps?

[/quote]



If you are ill-equipped to debate me, then stop.



I am pointing out the truth here.



It is shameful that you and your ilk continually try to pit people of faith against liberals, when there are many, many liberals and Democrats who are people of faith, including our president.



This is a failed tactic. You can't use this tactic and then support morally bankrupt candidates like Newt Gingrich at the same time attacking the president who has shown himself to be a devoted father and husband as well as a Christian.



YOu are the one who tries to use this faith and family bullshit as a political football, don't get your pink panties all up in a wad when it backfires on you.
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