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Old January 21st, 2014, 09:40 AM   #21
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I never debate with liberals. They use really tough argument points. Things like BUSH DID IT BUSH DID IT.
And according to you, and those like you, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING was wrong with the country before Obama was elected. NOTHING the previous administration or Republican controlled congress did has ever had the slightest effect on today's issues.
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Old January 21st, 2014, 10:36 AM   #22
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so you asked the question and didn't like the answer

big surprise

you just answered your own thread question
it's not a question, it's a lament and also a challenge.

it's been a lot of years since I argued a liberal point of view, but I swear I could do better than the name calling, race baiting pikers around here.
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Old January 21st, 2014, 12:05 PM   #23
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we libs are still around. one of the reasons i dont bother engaging in some debates is that the conservatives rarely listen. they are happy with their preconceptions, their fixed and immutable ideology, backed by psedoscience when they need it, and their minds are firmly closed.
pot and kettle!
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Old January 25th, 2014, 07:22 PM   #24
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let me help you get started libs.

rational coherent thought and reasoning, start with a liberal precept or axiom,....say, society needs to help unfortunate people.

get more specific: unwed mother's and their children

ok, how: food stamps, wic, govt daycare, etc

conservative inserts: prevention is better than government playing daddy

liberal: great, more birth control

conservative: birth control is a failure, abortion is murder

liberal: some stats on birth control, some sophistry on abortion

and so on

sum up: the discussion can be about how to reduce the suffering of single mothers and children, name calling doesn't advance anthing.
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Old January 25th, 2014, 07:28 PM   #25
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And according to you, and those like you, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING was wrong with the country before Obama was elected. NOTHING the previous administration or Republican controlled congress did has ever had the slightest effect on today's issues.
YOu look at every WRONG thing GW Bush did.. OBAMA DOUBLED DOWN.


every Right thing GW did Obama folded his hand.


GW Bush Got us out of Iraq, (Obama took credit, for the withdrawal, on the date that was negotiated in (Status of Forces Agreement) by Bush in August 2008, ratified Oct 2008.)

Obama doubled down on bailouts, which failed. Bailouts did not save Chrysler, fiat did, Bailouts did not save GM, a Federal Judge that restructured GM did when GM was granted Bankruptsy.)

Obama doubled down in Afganistan, without the will to win or follow through.
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Old January 25th, 2014, 07:54 PM   #26
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let me help you get started libs.

rational coherent thought and reasoning, start with a liberal precept or axiom,....say, society needs to help unfortunate people.

get more specific: unwed mother's and their children

ok, how: food stamps, wic, govt daycare, etc

conservative inserts: prevention is better than government playing daddy

liberal: great, more birth control

conservative: birth control is a failure, abortion is murder




liberal: some stats on birth control, some sophistry on abortion

and so on

sum up: the discussion can be about how to reduce the suffering of single mothers and children, name calling doesn't advance anthing.
Answer. Anarchism.
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Old January 25th, 2014, 08:12 PM   #27
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You're one to talk. You've beaten more than your fair share of dead horses around here.
When was that?
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Old January 25th, 2014, 08:44 PM   #28
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we libs are still around. one of the reasons i dont bother engaging in some debates is that the conservatives rarely listen. they are happy with their preconceptions, their fixed and immutable ideology, backed by psedoscience when they need it, and their minds are firmly closed.
Huh! Sorry, what are you saying?

Sorry couldn't resist.
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Old January 25th, 2014, 08:46 PM   #29
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Pick one Limbaugh, Rove, Palin, GW Bush, Reagan, pepper a couple of cheney pictures here and there..
Pictures of Cheney accidentally(?) shooting his hunting partner is always funny. As for the rest, meh.
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When was that?
When you didn't agree with him.
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