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Old June 8th, 2014, 08:49 PM   #21
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Just keep on telling that lie there TN. You don't get to claim you're hero for yelling FIRE !!! When you're the one that has just dumped gallons of gas on the blaze !!

Bush and the Republicans thought home ownership was the key to getting low income and minority voters to vote conservative. They tried to put 5.5 MILLOIN low income families into home of their own.

95% of the loans that defaulted were written between 2003 and 2008.

Bush THANKED Franklin Raines for setting up no less that 25 special programs for low income and minority home buyers.

It was Bush's man at the SEC that excluded the five largest "too big to fail" investment banks from the SEC's long standing liquidity requirements.

Sorry but the great shrub didn't an enormous amount of damage before he ever tried to fix anything.

There is STILL the issue that while much of this was going on REPUBLICANS controlled BOTH houses of congress.

Are you REALLY admitting that one gay senator from Boston had MORE POWER than the entire Republican party ?????????????
I am pretty sure that in the early 1990s, Bush was somehow involved in causing Raines and Clinton to force banks to start proving they were not redlining by fulfilling quotas.

Bush was also involved in the early 1990s of amending the Community Reinvestment Act to cause the banks to fulfill quotas as well as a determining factor in proving they were not redlining.

It was Bush also who caused the Department of Housing and Urban Development to start the organization in 1993 of $3.5 trillion CRA loans that eventually defaulted in the 2000s so Bush could take the blame.

It was Bush in the early 1990s who implemented policies that caused $1 trillion in Fannie Mae's loans under Clinton's new guidelines that Bush caused to default at a 11.36% rate compared to a 1.8% default rate on traditional loans in the 2000s, which is is Bush's fault because of his influence over Clinton.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 09:13 PM   #22
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Just keep on telling that lie there TN. You don't get to claim you're hero for yelling FIRE !!! When you're the one that has just dumped gallons of gas on the blaze !!

Bush and the Republicans thought home ownership was the key to getting low income and minority voters to vote conservative. They tried to put 5.5 MILLOIN low income families into home of their own.

95% of the loans that defaulted were written between 2003 and 2008.

Bush THANKED Franklin Raines for setting up no less that 25 special programs for low income and minority home buyers.

It was Bush's man at the SEC that excluded the five largest "too big to fail" investment banks from the SEC's long standing liquidity requirements.

Sorry but the great shrub didn't an enormous amount of damage before he ever tried to fix anything.

There is STILL the issue that while much of this was going on REPUBLICANS controlled BOTH houses of congress.

Are you REALLY admitting that one gay senator from Boston had MORE POWER than the entire Republican party ?????????????
How am I telling a lie?

I have not said one word except opinion.

Every Video I have posted are DEMOCRATS Opposing regulation in 2001,5,6,7and GOP supporting regulation in those same years.... I have let them speak in THEIR OWN WORDS..

So if DEMOCRATS SAYING OPPOSING THE REGULATION in 2001, 5,6,7 in their own words, explaiin to me how that is me lying?

I let them speak for themselves.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 09:19 PM   #23
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Just keep on telling that lie there TN. You don't get to claim you're hero for yelling FIRE !!! When you're the one that has just dumped gallons of gas on the blaze !!

Bush and the Republicans thought home ownership was the key to getting low income and minority voters to vote conservative. They tried to put 5.5 MILLOIN low income families into home of their own.

95% of the loans that defaulted were written between 2003 and 2008.

Bush THANKED Franklin Raines for setting up no less that 25 special programs for low income and minority home buyers.

It was Bush's man at the SEC that excluded the five largest "too big to fail" investment banks from the SEC's long standing liquidity requirements.


Sorry but the great shrub didn't an enormous amount of damage before he ever tried to fix anything.

There is STILL the issue that while much of this was going on REPUBLICANS controlled BOTH houses of congress.

Are you REALLY admitting that one gay senator from Boston had MORE POWER than the entire Republican party ?????????????
how did I lie, I posted video of them in their own words


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Remember it tanked on HARRY REID and PELOSI'S watch...


They Controlled the Fiscal branch of Government at the time, and they also are the ones that BLOCKED REGULATION of the MORTGAGE industry

I will let the democrat explain it in their own words... let them speak for themselves.

Remember Obama help block the regulations too.

HowThe Democrats Caused The Financial Crisis Starring HUD Sec Andrew Cuomo & Barack Obama - YouTube
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here is your "what if" fulfilled, you in particular I heartily endorse that I consider you a person of good will, interested in personal liberty and prosperity of the most persons possible.

and you?
I consider most partisans (hard core Democrats and Republicans) to be people who honestly think they are trying to do the best for the country. I happen to believe that they are VERY mistaken...but I don't believe, for the most part, that they have evil intent.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 06:36 AM   #25
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I consider most partisans (hard core Democrats and Republicans) to be people who honestly think they are trying to do the best for the country. I happen to believe that they are VERY mistaken...but I don't believe, for the most part, that they have evil intent.
so now that we are all such good intentions,.... when has the government ever undertaken to provide for a person (food, housing, healthcare, personal defense, etc) that has not resulted in a loss of liberty to the individual?
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Old June 9th, 2014, 07:15 AM   #26
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so now that we are all such good intentions,.... when has the government ever undertaken to provide for a person (food, housing, healthcare, personal defense, etc) that has not resulted in a loss of liberty to the individual?
Actually their are thousands of examples like the GI Bill, the interstate highway system, the FDIC. Education is liberty, travel is liberty and checking and savings accounts represent liberty. What that hell have you ever done but complain and whine ?
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Actually their are thousands of examples like the GI Bill, the interstate highway system, the FDIC. Education is liberty, travel is liberty and checking and savings accounts represent liberty. What that hell have you ever done but complain and whine ?
sorry camelot, you skipped the prerequisites for this discussion. you are not allowed to proceed.

the prerequisites being that we begin by assuming we are both people of good will who may differ on how good can be accomplished.
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sorry camelot, you skipped the prerequisites for this discussion. you are not allowed to proceed.

the prerequisites being that we begin by assuming we are both people of good will who may differ on how good can be accomplished.
Nwolfe didn't speak for me. I've read enough of your hatred spewing to conclude that "good will" is not a part of your lexicon. You earned it, own it.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 08:40 AM   #29
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Nwolfe didn't speak for me. I've read enough of your hatred spewing to conclude that "good will" is not a part of your lexicon. You earned it, own it.
quote me saying something hateful. (except for those few times when I got tired of poet's insults)
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so now that we are all such good intentions,.... when has the government ever undertaken to provide for a person (food, housing, healthcare, personal defense, etc) that has not resulted in a loss of liberty to the individual?
It many not have resulted in a loss of freedom to the individual being helped, but I agree...to give to person A requires taking something from person B

Now, when has the government ever undertaken to police the morals of the citizens that has not resulted in a loss of liberty to the individual?
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