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Old June 18th, 2014, 02:46 AM   #11
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That IS how leftists think and do things.
If me and my friends made up a game that was to go somewhere public and punch black men, we would make front page NATIONAL NEWS for weeks on end
and the screams of "RACISM!" would be deafening.
Blacks have been doing this very thing against whites for many years and only recently got a mention because a Jew was punched.
No one, of course, says they were racist even though their victims were picked by race.
Nah, knockout games are just a bunch of innocent kids having a bit of fun.
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Old June 18th, 2014, 04:04 AM   #12
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Hillary and Bill have both argued for higher estate taxes, and fought Republicans' attempts to eliminate entirely what they call the 'death tax'
A Bloomberg commentator said Tuesday that the move is legal and passes the ethics smell-test, but will be terrible optics for Hillary in 2016
It's legal, no doubt about that, but I think ethical is debatable.

A lot of people use trusts to avoid paying taxes. I never campaigned for or against the death tax, when I dodge the tax it's legal and ethical because I never said one thing and did another as far as the death tax is concerned.

In the Clinton's case it's legal to dodge the tax but it's not ethical. They're dodging a tax that they want other people to pay so they're hypocrites and I don't think the words hypocritical and ethical go together.

This is a small example of a much larger problem with our tax code, the laws are written with built in 'outs' so what's the point?
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It's legal, no doubt about that, but I think ethical is debatable.

A lot of people use trusts to avoid paying taxes. I never campaigned for or against the death tax, when I dodge the tax it's legal and ethical because I never said one thing and did another as far as the death tax is concerned.

In the Clinton's case it's legal to dodge the tax but it's not ethical. They're dodging a tax that they want other people to pay so they're hypocrites and I don't think the words hypocritical and ethical go together.

This is a small example of a much larger problem with our tax code, the laws are written with built in 'outs' so what's the point?
BTW: dual nats (like me) get socked death tax by the IRS. I certainly understand this but an awful lot of expats don't even THINK about it...because they are totally unaware of it...but their estate will get socked much to the surprise of everyone waiting to git somefin' once their family member shuffles off to Buffalo.
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Old June 18th, 2014, 12:02 PM   #14
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It's legal, no doubt about that, but I think ethical is debatable.

A lot of people use trusts to avoid paying taxes. I never campaigned for or against the death tax, when I dodge the tax it's legal and ethical because I never said one thing and did another as far as the death tax is concerned.

In the Clinton's case it's legal to dodge the tax but it's not ethical. They're dodging a tax that they want other people to pay so they're hypocrites and I don't think the words hypocritical and ethical go together.

This is a small example of a much larger problem with our tax code, the laws are written with built in 'outs' so what's the point?
I disagree. They don't pay the tax now and others don't. They do think the tax is a good idea. I don't see how them thinking the tax is a good idea means they should pay it when others don't. No hypocrisy there at all.
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I disagree. They don't pay the tax now and others don't. They do think the tax is a good idea. I don't see how them thinking the tax is a good idea means they should pay it when others don't. No hypocrisy there at all.
Hunh?
Thinking others should pay the tax and campaigning for more of the same while not paying the tax themselves is EXACTLY what you call hypocrisy.
Please share your definition of the word for us to understand what you really mean.
I am sure it will be amusing.
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Hunh?
Thinking others should pay the tax and campaigning for more of the same while not paying the tax themselves is EXACTLY what you call hypocrisy.
Please share your definition of the word for us to understand what you really mean.
I am sure it will be amusing.
If they were thinking that others should pay that tax and they should be exempt then yes. But that is not what she is saying. Is this really too complex for you?
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If they were thinking that others should pay that tax and they should be exempt then yes. But that is not what she is saying. Is this really too complex for you?
That is exactly what she has been saying.
Per the article, written in plain English:

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Hillary and Bill have both argued for higher estate taxes, and fought Republicans' attempts to eliminate entirely what they call the 'death tax'
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In their political lives, both Clintons have advocated for narrowing the loophole that they are now leveraging.
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Hillary has been more direct, arguing during the 2008 presidential campaign season for a change in federal law that would expose more of wealthy Americans' estates to the tax man.
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Federal estate taxes currently apply only to amounts over $5.34 million. Mrs. Clinton proposed lowering that cap to $3.5 million. She also argued that the top tax rate, paid only by the super-wealthy, should increase from 40 to 45 per cent.
Seriously, I've had more intelligent arguments with two year old children over nap time.
Do you and M&M even read the article before you throw monkey poop all around?
Must I next post the definition of the word "hypocrite" from multiple sources?

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That is exactly what she has been saying.
Per the article, written in plain English:









Seriously, I've had more intelligent arguments with tow year old children over nap time.
Do you and M&M even read the article before you throw monkey poop all around?
Must I next post the definition of the word "hypocrite" from multiple sources?

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Stop the stupid and leeches from stealing the fruits of your labor!
They argue for implementation of some form of inheritance tax. Such a tax is not in place. So they don't pay a tax that doesn't exist. Oh, the horror.

Probably the closest thing to a scandal the right can think up. But that dog don't hunt.
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They argue for implementation of some form of inheritance tax. Such a tax is not in place. So they don't pay a tax that doesn't exist. Oh, the horror.

Probably the closest thing to a scandal the right can think up. But that dog don't hunt.
The US does have an inheritance tax.
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The US does have an inheritance tax.

Which is the reason for Bill & Hill putting their home, etc., in trusts.

I really do believe that trusts should be limited to a certain amount, to prevent the Bill Gate's, the Warren Buffett's, from leaving tens-of-billions in tax free trusts that wind up in the hands of left wing people, i.e. The Ford Foundation.


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