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Old July 28th, 2014, 10:10 AM   #21
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this in current events?

is there a moderator in the house?
I'm sure you would like to get rid of it. Censoring the truth is what religious whacos do. Especially since when it exposes the shear hypocrisy of far right religious conservatives who cannot handle the truth. And I have yet to find a far right religious conservative who can handle the truth. Your reply proves that fact in spades. When you are a religious conservative and call for a moderator to remove an article mostly comprised of Biblical quotes, that's speaks volumes doesn't it webguy? How dare skews expose our rank hypocrisy from the very book we try to push down peoples throats on a daily basis with our ignorant misinterpretations of it. Please mr. moderator, come to our aid. You know that actual biblical quotations are nothing but rants. Unless of course it's quotations we use rant about based upon our very narrow interpretations.
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I'm sure you would like to get rid of it. Censoring the truth is what religious whacos do. Especially since when it exposes the shear hypocrisy of far right religious conservatives who cannot handle the truth.
This reeks of irony coming from an illiterate hyper partisan fool on steroids who is a prolific troll and liar.

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And I have yet to find a far right religious conservative who can handle the truth.
Based on the prolific lies you spam this forum with; I am quite certain that you couldn’t find the truth if it was lit up like a Christmas Tree.

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Your reply proves that fact in spades. When you are a religious conservative and call for a moderator to remove an article mostly comprised of Biblical quotes, that's speaks volumes doesn't it webguy?
That wasn’t what he did was it you lying partisan hack? He suggested it be MOVED to a proper thread because this certainly is not a “current event”, but rather a whiney leftist anti-Conservative rant based on lies, strawmen and innuendo.

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How dare skews expose our rank hypocrisy from the very book we try to push down peoples throats on a daily basis with our ignorant misinterpretations of it. Please mr. moderator, come to our aid. You know that actual biblical quotations are nothing but rants. Unless of course it's quotations we use rant about based upon our very narrow interpretations.
Your problem is obvious……
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Old July 28th, 2014, 10:35 AM   #23
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Weren't you and the rest of Liberal bottom feeders just ranting and raving about religion, and how it's being used to destroy this country?! Care to tell us how using the bible to make your EMPTY argument differs?
BAM! Irony and hypocrisy escapes hyper partisan fools on steroids.

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Old July 28th, 2014, 10:58 AM   #24
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This reeks of irony coming from an illiterate hyper partisan fool on steroids who is a prolific troll and liar.



Based on the prolific lies you spam this forum with; I am quite certain that you couldn’t find the truth if it was lit up like a Christmas Tree.



That wasn’t what he did was it you lying partisan hack? He suggested it be MOVED to a proper thread because this certainly is not a “current event”, but rather a whiney leftist anti-Conservative rant based on lies, strawmen and innuendo.



Your problem is obvious……
Wow, you talk about whiney. That reply is the very epitome of it. First denial, then rage, then justification. But you're the one claiming that the quotes of the Bible are lies, not me. Apparently, one of us was raised with Christian values. That wouldn't be you. Keep on hating, and whining pal. You're doing a fine job. Considering the fact the OP was quite factual in his premise of the article, if being conservative is the antithesis of it, that's one hell of a referendum on conservatives isn't it? Unlike you though, i'm not going to pin that on all conservatives. I'm sure there are many of them who are embarrassed to know they are associated with the likes of people such as yourself. I know conservatives. I have conservative friends. You sir, are no conservative. That word doesn't mean what you think it does.
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Wow, you talk about whiney. That reply is the very epitome of it.
Dear fool; that wasn’t whining. That is the purvue of ignorant Liberals who five years into this failed Presidency continue to blame Bush and Republicans.
But since when did a hyper partisan low information voting fool like you ever concern yourself with mundane things like reality, the truth or facts?

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First denial, then rage, then justification. But you're the one claiming that the quotes of the Bible are lies, not me.
Please show me where I claimed the bible quotes were lies; once again we see that not only are a you a prolific liar, but you have the reading comprehension of a third grader.

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Apparently, one of us was raised with Christian values. That wouldn't be you.
That can’t possibly be you; lying is a sin. And you are one of the most prolific liars on the forum.

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Keep on hating, and whining pal.
In order to hate you, I would have to care. Never mistake me for someone who cares about hyper partisan lying low information fools like you.

Please, don’t call me pal; I don’t associate with lying hyper partisan low information fools.

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You're doing a fine job.
That’s what I do; point at lying fools and laugh.

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Considering the fact the OP was quite factual in his premise of the article, if being conservative is the antithesis of it, that's one hell of a referendum on conservatives isn't it?
There was nothing factual or honest about your opening sentence. IN fact is was incredibly false, painfully ignorant.

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Unlike you though, i'm not going to pin that on all conservatives.
LMAO; you truly are a clueless liar aren’t you?

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I'm sure there are many of them who are embarrassed to know they are associated with the likes of people such as yourself.
Yes; because uneducated lying hyper partisan Liberals like you are great judges of Conservative character. One doesn’t need hip waders to get through the massive pile of bullshit you spew here, we need a freaking snorkel.

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I know conservatives. I have conservative friends. You sir, are no conservative. That word doesn't mean what you think it does.
LMAO

Yes; because uneducated lying hyper partisan Liberals like you are great judges of Conservative character. One doesn’t need hip waders to get through the massive pile of bullshit you spew here, we need a freaking snorkel.

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An inaccurate statement with no basis in history.
Well, it is an inaccurate statement; but, only because we have consistently failed to live up to our ideas or extend their pursuit to any but the whites. Historically we have not behaved like secular state, I don't believe. However, we have managed to avoid becoming a theocracy as well. Somewhere in between is probably accurate.

Freedom of religion is sort of hard for me to get a grip on. Most of America's history it has pretty much applied to white Protestants as the right to worship as they please. It seems the extension to freedom from religion is a fairly recent.

I think we view the concept differently today than they did in the 18th Century. It has evolved to mean something much more than I think the Founders intended. In some regards I consider that good and in others, not so much. I object to any group trying to prevent another from public practice of their religious beliefs...particularly when it is simply for the sake of preventing it. Public property belongs to the public and the religious are part of that public.

Anyway, I doubt we feel that the statement was inaccurate for the same reasons but it certainly would seem to be.
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Well, it is an inaccurate statement; but, only because we have consistently failed to live up to our ideas or extend their pursuit to any but the whites. Historically we have not behaved like secular state, I don't believe. However, we have managed to avoid becoming a theocracy as well. Somewhere in between is probably accurate.

Freedom of religion is sort of hard for me to get a grip on. Most of America's history it has pretty much applied to white Protestants as the right to worship as they please. It seems the extension to freedom from religion is a fairly recent.

I think we view the concept differently today than they did in the 18th Century. It has evolved to mean something much more than I think the Founders intended. In some regards I consider that good and in others, not so much. I object to any group trying to prevent another from public practice of their religious beliefs...particularly when it is simply for the sake of preventing it. Public property belongs to the public and the religious are part of that public.

Anyway, I doubt we feel that the statement was inaccurate for the same reasons but it certainly would seem to be.

Going back to the beginnings of the country in the 1600s, the country was a theocracy, and even tried socialism. That position gradually moved into a theocracy/civil government based on the tenets of the Bible as the colonies expanded into twelve, and thirteen after Delaware declared its independence from Pennsylvania on June 15, 1776. Around this time is when it hit the in-between juncture.

The primary debate during the convention in the deal making to ratify the Constitution regarding the Gentlemen’s Agreement and during the debates on the Bill of Rights was to prevent one Protestant religion of having precedence over another, and this manifested still in the 19th century with the Danbury letter to Jefferson. There was never a freedom from religion concept as it was discussed and assumed that the non-religious did not have standing under the religious clauses in the 1st Amendment. It is a concept that was born after from the incorporation doctrine.

It has evolved, but that evolvement was due to the federal government having control over the states judicially under the incorporation doctrine. As I have stated several times here, I do not believe that the Bible should be taught in public school as a religious book. What does not change over time is the intent of the 1st Amendment and what constitutes the establishment of a religion. It was understood by the founders as the actual establishment of a national church.

I don’t think we are that far off on the reason the statement was inaccurate, but that is a whole different boring and mind-numbing discussion dragging in Old Hebrew to establish the accuracy of the statement.
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