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Old April 20th, 2017, 04:01 PM   #121
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So wait her parents being fire, and brimstone Christians, and are against murder, and premarital sex, are going to do what exactly, kill her, or God forbid take away her phone? Think it through, I like you but this makes no sense to me.
exactly. it wouldnt be the first time a parent used capital punishment on their child.

if it makes it easier, imagine she is the child of migrants from the middle east or pakistan. her parents are strict muslims and their standing in their community is dependent on marrying off their daughter, and that depends on her being a virgin. but the daughter doesnt mix with that community, she is american born and bred, she is not religious, and doesnt have the same values, and everyone else is having sex. honour killings in this setting certainly happen.
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Then let them, if they are that stupid!
and this is where the anti abortion crowd always end up.

punish her for having sex.

thats what its really about. every time. punishing women for sex.

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fuck off. he killed children. i am talking about fetuses.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 04:09 PM   #123
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Wait for it, how about she doesn't have sex under age when she is not ready to be a parent! Does that make sense to anybody?
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So wait her parents being fire, and brimstone Christians, and are against murder, and premarital sex, are going to do what exactly, kill her, or God forbid take away her phone? Think it through, I like you but this makes no sense to me.
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What about the fathers rights when said female has abortion without his consent?

If the parents say the girl has to carry it they should be financially responsible, along with the fathers parents, until said time they can afford to do it themselves. That includes paying for the college careers of said children. Accountability is a word that seems foreign to many of you.
before we go any further, lets remember we are talking about a tiny proportion of people. unwanted pregnancies in teenagers are pretty rare. and when it happens, hiding it from dangerous parents isnt the norm, its the exception. this is fine print, this is a rare and unusual scenario. these are hard cases.

there is a legal maxim - hard cases make bad laws. which means, you make laws based on the usual, ordinary case. the hard cases you deal with one at a time. if you make laws based on the hard cases they dont work for the ordinary situations. this would be a good example. abortion laws are made considering women who are over 18, of sound mind, in the first trimester. because that is the overwhelming majority of cases. anything outside this you deal with case by case.
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Look up statistics about unwanted births and STDs among practitioners of Abstinence Only programs.

Concentrate on their spokesperson, Bristol Palin.
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and this is where the anti abortion crowd always end up.



fuck off. he killed children. i am talking about fetuses.
Fetus: Latin for small child or offspring.
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Fetus: Latin for small child or offspring.
webguy English 21 century : euphemism for spewer of meaningless comparisons.
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Fetus: Latin for small child or offspring.
Salary?

Mortgage?

Hazard?

There are tons of them.
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Why should any female of whatever age not have control of her own body? These discussions baffle me.
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Fetus: Latin for small child or offspring.
Salary: From Latin for salt. I'm sure you'd be perfectly OK with your boss paying you in salt every payday.
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Old April 22nd, 2017, 04:40 AM   #130
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So wait her parents being fire, and brimstone Christians, and are against murder, and premarital sex, are going to do what exactly, kill her, or God forbid take away her phone? Think it through, I like you but this makes no sense to me.
Who said anything about killing her? How about just beating the crap out of her? You know, "Spare the rod, spoil the child"

Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.


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18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Does this punishment apply only to sons?
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