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Old April 22nd, 2017, 04:42 AM   #131
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Why should any female of whatever age not have control of her own body? These discussions baffle me.
A six year old should not have full autonomy but that doesn't give the parents (or anyone) carte Blanche to do what they want either.
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A six year old should not have full autonomy but that doesn't give the parents (or anyone) carte Blanche to do what they want either.
Well, it might be difficult, but why should she, if capable, be forced to bear a child?
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Well, it might be difficult, but why should she, if capable, be forced to bear a child?
A double hypothetical to justify the casual murder of millions of innocent children. Thank you, a great example of the blindness of liberals to irony.
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Old April 23rd, 2017, 03:59 AM   #134
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A double hypothetical to justify the casual murder of millions of innocent children. Thank you, a great example of the blindness of liberals to irony.
Killing children is against the law, as you know. They are little people with separate bodies. What you are proposing is to take control of other persons' bodies to force them to bear future drug addicts and prisoners. I think sadism should be a punishable crime myself.
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A double hypothetical to justify the casual murder of millions of innocent children. Thank you, a great example of the blindness of liberals to irony.
You just described Christianity.
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Fetus: Latin for small child or offspring.
i am not speaking latin. i am speaking english, and fetus (or foetus) is english for "early stage, non viable products of conception".
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A double hypothetical to justify the casual murder of millions of innocent children. Thank you, a great example of the blindness of liberals to irony.
fetuses arent children. you present a great example of blindness to reality.
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fetuses arent children. you present a great example of blindness to reality.
I loved my daughter before she was born. You think that makes me an evil person. The problem is yours, not mine.
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I loved my daughter before she was born. You think that makes me an evil person. The problem is yours, not mine.
You loved the idea of your daughter before she had an independent existence, and you had at best a couple of photos of a foetus and a few kicks and such. Good, I'm glad you loved the idea and didn't need to look for an abortion. Others should be so lucky.
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I loved my daughter before she was born..
me too. kind of.

i have 2 children, when my partner was pregnant, i loved the idea that i was going to become a father. i was aware early on that they are not yet developed into people, but the potential was there and i loved that feeling. we had names and everything. boy and girl names, because they werent yet people, they were just possibilities.

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where the holy fucking hell did you get that from?

you are not evil. we just disagree on a few things. on some topics, such as biology and abortion, you are not well informed and argue from an emotional and religious position rather than a biological one, but that can be remedied. you arent evil, your position on abortion isnt evil either, i have never said anything to suggest you are and i would appreciate an apology.

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neither of us have a problem. we have different opinions and different reasons for holding those opinions. this is a matter of biology, if you are going to have an opinion regarding the beginning of life it should be based on biology.
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