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Old December 21st, 2017, 03:17 PM   #1
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Ayn Rand quote

I'm not a great fan of Ayn Rand's philosophy but I have just become a great fan of one of her quotes.

Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it.

How true in a wide variety of situations. AGW, tinkle-on economics and so many more.

How often does reason and logic just not work.
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Your post reminds me of the CNN commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vckz6EAn30Y
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I'm not a great fan of Ayn Rand's philosophy but I have just become a great fan of one of her quotes.

Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it.

How true in a wide variety of situations. AGW, tinkle-on economics and so many more.

How often does reason and logic just not work.
Reason isn't automatic

you were claiming The Companies were Giving 1000 Dollar bonuses to save money..


They can only deduct the money given in bonuses so How profitable is it to spend 1000 to save 200..

If you think that is profitable for You send me a 1000 Cash (US) and I will Return 200 dollars of that back to you on April 15 2019.

That is Canadian Reasoning.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 06:57 PM   #6
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"would totally eliminate states’ rights altogether: Since for us the state as such is only a form, but the essential is its content, the nation, the people, it is clear that everything else must be subordinated to its sovereign interests. In particular we cannot grant to any individual state within the nation and the state representing it state sovereignty and sovereignty in point of political power." Thus the "mischief of individual federated states…must cease and will some day cease…. National Socialism as a matter of principle must lay claim to the right to force its principles on the whole German nation without consideration of previous federated state boundaries."

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Reason isn't automatic

you were claiming The Companies were Giving 1000 Dollar bonuses to save money..


They can only deduct the money given in bonuses so How profitable is it to spend 1000 to save 200..

If you think that is profitable for You send me a 1000 Cash (US) and I will Return 200 dollars of that back to you on April 15 2019.

That is Canadian Reasoning.
Maybe he meant that if companies give that $1000 bonus before Jan 1, they can get $389 back, whereas if they wait til January the deduction is only worth $200....
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Reason isn't automatic

you were claiming The Companies were Giving 1000 Dollar bonuses to save money..


They can only deduct the money given in bonuses so How profitable is it to spend 1000 to save 200..

If you think that is profitable for You send me a 1000 Cash (US) and I will Return 200 dollars of that back to you on April 15 2019.

That is Canadian Reasoning.
She hated socialism and saw it as the seat of illogical thinking.
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Your post reminds me of the CNN commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vckz6EAn30Y
I like this one better, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfj6kHBtC_k
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She hated socialism and saw it as the seat of illogical thinking.

you have it backwards. She said that irrationality is the root of all evil. Many people do not have a proper life as their goal and standard of judgement. Most people are just ticks. They've never had an original thought in their lives and never will. If they ever had one, they'd never recognize it for what it was. They can't even imagine even wanting to not be in the center of the herd, with lots of hosts around to suck the blood out of.
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