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Old May 25th, 2015, 07:52 AM   #1
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A Ground War against ISIS

With the rapid gains ISIS is making, what are the odds that we will launch another ground operation in the region?
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Old May 25th, 2015, 08:25 AM   #2
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With the rapid gains ISIS is making, what are the odds that we will launch another ground operation in the region?
Let me just say that the upcoming presidential election has significant consequences.
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Old May 25th, 2015, 08:32 AM   #3
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Let me just say that the upcoming presidential election has significant consequences.
What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
Listen to the various presidential contenders.
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Old May 25th, 2015, 09:24 AM   #5
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What do you mean?
I think he is attempting to point out that the election of a Republican President would all but INSURE further military involvement in the area. I believe all the Pubs with a chance of nomination are serious Hawks on the issue. Thank God the nomination process almost guarantees that anyone who wins the Pub nomination will be so far right as to be unelectable.

And by further involvement I mean Troops and equipment in direct contact with ISIS...boots on the ground.
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A democrat is just as like to send in ground troops as is a republican. Both parties are full of neo-con warhawks.
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I think he is attempting to point out that the election of a Republican President would all but INSURE further military involvement in the area. I believe all the Pubs with a chance of nomination are serious Hawks on the issue. Thank God the nomination process almost guarantees that anyone who wins the Pub nomination will be so far right as to be unelectable.

And by further involvement I mean Troops and equipment in direct contact with ISIS...boots on the ground.
Yep, the GOP will somehow many to nominate a candidate that offends just about everyone other than a small minority of far RW.
The key to most election is the "undecided", the "swing vote". A certain percentage of the population will vote Republican no matter who the nominee is, same is true with Democrats.
But there is a group of voters that are rather moderate. the GOP will come up with a guy/gal so RW extreme as to offend almost all of those people, driving them straight into the arms of the Democrat.
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With the rapid gains ISIS is making, what are the odds that we will launch another ground operation in the region?
To defeat ISIS, this may be the only option left.

When Ash Carton said that the Iraqi Army lacked the heart to fight ISIS and instead they ran, he was met with answers like the Iraqi Army didn't have the kind of equipment used to fight ISIS. This could be a long and protracted battle.

So sending in troops from other countries like the USA, England, may be the only option left to fight and defeat ISIS. But Obama said that there will be no USA boots on the ground. So whose folly will it be: Bush's or Obama's?

And Obama had better think about the mass slaughter of the Iraqi civilians. Does the ISIS leader Al-Baghdadi really advocate such a terrible thing like that?
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A democrat is just as like to send in ground troops as is a republican. Both parties are full of neo-con warhawks.
Nonsense, Obama has no intention of a boots on the ground legacy and I agree with him 100%. The Republicans have refused to act on a request from the President from 9 months ago for a Use of Force resolution to cover our current operations. They whine that the President works around Congress but can't seem to even bring up a debate for a resolution because they don't want their vote going down on the record. In light of that political cowardice, even the Republicans have no authority to place boots on the ground.
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To defeat ISIS, this may be the only option left.

When Ash Carton said that the Iraqi Army lacked the heart to fight ISIS and instead they ran, he was met with answers like the Iraqi Army didn't have the kind of equipment used to fight ISIS. This could be a long and protracted battle.

So sending in troops from other countries like the USA, England, may be the only option left to fight and defeat ISIS. But Obama said that there will be no USA boots on the ground. So whose folly will it be: Bush's or Obama's?

And Obama had better think about the mass slaughter of the Iraqi civilians. Does the ISIS leader Al-Baghdadi really advocate such a terrible thing like that?
Listen to me very closely.

We cannot win a war of security and independence that Iraq's own citizens refuse to fight themselves. That has never been achieved in the history of the world !!!!!
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