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Old September 19th, 2015, 03:33 PM   #11
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Take a good look at Dearborn, Michigan. What do we see..."no-go zones"! City counsel trying to implement Sharia law. Once Muslims reach a saturation level, the crap starts. They will not assimilate. The US extended a helping hand and look what it got us. Our generosity only goes so far. Further immigration will only exacerbate the problem. We've got enough alien crap to worry about, let alone, putting up with crap from people from Muslim countries we tried to help who are now telling us to go to hell.
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Old September 19th, 2015, 03:41 PM   #12
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Now there's that "pro-life" god fearing born again evangelical hatred that's been destroying this nation for over 40 years.
If your describing me, you failed...again. Language, borders, culture. Without it we're another 3rd world country. If anyone refuses to assimilate into the American culture, they don't need to be here. Multi-culturalism does not work. We're seeing that here in our own country. With uncontrolled legal immigration, and out of control illegal alien immigration the cultural divide in this country is leading to big problems.
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Old September 19th, 2015, 03:58 PM   #13
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This is an argument? Wow.
I don't run the country, as better of as it'd be in my hands.

The answer is not nearly enough, which is why I'm one of many advocating for more.

The stupider end of the conservative spectrum have an ignorant and irrational hate for Muslims...Just for being Muslim.
That could be something.

That wasn't a guess, RP. You know they're taking none in.
This crisis is ample opportunity for countries to show just how humanitarian they really are - do you want yours to show how cold in the face of human suffering they are?
Actually don't answer that, 'my guess' is that you don't actually give a shit.
Irrational hate for Muslims does exist. But that's not the issue here.

Borders define the most basic requirement for a country to be a country. A country without control of its borders is a country at war.

Make no mistake: The refugee crisis is an invasion. The invaders ignore the borders, and as this lady explained, they often have no money, no food, the clothes on their backs and barefoot.

If they wind up in Germany or wherever, those are the first things they'll need plus housing. Even if she is willing to work, jobs don't appear magically.

It's an all-around tragic situation, for the refugees and for Europeans and their culture as Muslims most definitely outbreed Euros, but this exodus isn't the answer.
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Old September 19th, 2015, 07:48 PM   #14
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This is an argument? Wow.
I don't run the country, as better of as it'd be in my hands.

The answer is not nearly enough, which is why I'm one of many advocating for more.

The stupider end of the conservative spectrum have an ignorant and irrational hate for Muslims...Just for being Muslim.
That could be something.

That wasn't a guess, RP. You know they're taking none in.
This crisis is ample opportunity for countries to show just how humanitarian they really are - do you want yours to show how cold in the face of human suffering they are?
Actually don't answer that, 'my guess' is that you don't actually give a shit.
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This crisis is ample opportunity for countries to show just how humanitarian they really are - do you want yours to show how cold in the face of human suffering they are?
I think the USA is doing its share just fine thank you very fucking much Aussie.

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Old September 20th, 2015, 01:03 AM   #15
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How many is Australia taking in?
australia has a set number of immigrants every year, which slowly increases as we grow. its a bit under 200 000 per year at this stage. its been a pretty stable percentage of population growth for decades, despite what the media may say.

refugees are a small part of this, about 14 000. but refugees can also apply for immigration, while waiting in a refugee centre in another country, and a lot do. so they are refugees that arrive in australia, from a refugee camp, but on paper are just immigrants.

being an island protecting the borders from illegal immigration is the navys job. currently the practice is, if they find a boat with illegal immigrants on it, they tow it back to wherever it came from. if anyone tries to get off, they are plucked from the sea and put back on their boat. the ethics of this have been debated in detail and it is an issue that has divided the country. say what you like about it though, since we started turning the boats back, they have stopped coming. it wont be long before europe starts doing the same, and before there is a euro build wall of some kind at the border of turkey.

recently it was announced that australia will take an extra 10 000 syrian refugees. there is a qualifier - they have to be members of a persecuted minority. much of the press has reported this as meaning they 'have to be christian'. this isnt true, the truth is they can be any religion except muslim.
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Old September 20th, 2015, 01:06 AM   #16
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How many refuges are being taken in by Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Bosnia, or Iran, my guess is none. We have no obligation to take in any of them, the Arab states have plenty of room and money. The Germans are just trying to make amends for WWII atrocities, IMHO.
the gulf states have explicitly stated they will take zero refugees. their reasons are that the refugees will not assimilate with their culture (they are muslim arabs, what the hell is there to assimilate with??) and there are definitely going to be terrorists mixed in with the refugees, so its a security risk.

if the muslim arab gulf states cannot assimilate muslim arabs, why the hell does anyone thing europe can? and given saudi arabia sponsors half the worlds islamic terrorism, they can be trusted to know where the terrorists are, we should listen to them on this.
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Australia has curtailed it's immigration numbers for a reason. What would that reason be?
Because "down with humanity! Up with ignorance, xenophobia and racism."

It may be a tune you can dance to - but many of us aren't on par with your intelligence.
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Because "down with humanity! Up with ignorance, xenophobia and racism."

It may be a tune you can dance to - but many of us aren't on par with your intelligence.
As I suspected, it didn't take you long to pull out the race card! For immigration to work it must be done in small increments (ebb & flow). Giving the new immigrants time to assimilate into the new culture. Australia knows this and has adjusted their immigration numbers to allow for this. Otherwise, you have chaos. Germany will find that with the huge numbers they're allowing in there will be no assimilation. Given enough time, the Muslims will start demanding that their culture and laws take precedence over German law, and culture. We are seeing that in every country who has taken in an excess amount of Muslim immigrant, including the US. Generosity does not include destroying a countries culture!!
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Old September 20th, 2015, 08:26 PM   #19
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Because "down with humanity! Up with ignorance, xenophobia and racism."

It may be a tune you can dance to - but many of us aren't on par with your intelligence.
so, can you explain exactly what race 'islam' is?
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Wow. Strawman fallacies abound.
You guys may be racists, but I haven't even mentioned race.

Islam isn't a race, but bigots tend to think bigotry's not a thing.
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