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Old November 1st, 2017, 12:49 PM   #11
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There are civilized persons in it, as there were in Nazi Germany. They just have no influence on its evil behaviour. The country, as you know, belongs to the Palestinians.
And now, facts: The newly elected Zionist Camp leader Avi Gabai tries to return his party to Yitzhak Rabin's political views. That is to save the "settlements" of Judea and Samaria, in exchange for "swaps" of the people and territory. By the way, the first to propose the "swaps" was "rightwing extremist" Avigdor Lieberman (Jewish Home party).
Israeli Left tries to return to "real politic", after two decades of defeat.

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No, it actually doesn't. Israel belongs to Israel.
Look up the word "Nakba" which your zionist sources are trying to cleanse off the internet! It's like American history...force people off the land then write about all the new virgin land you discovered provided by God. No wonder American rightists feel such close affinity with Israel!
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Look up the word "Nakba" which your zionist sources are trying to cleanse off the internet! It's like American history...force people off the land then write about all the new virgin land you discovered provided by God. No wonder American rightists feel such close affinity with Israel!
No need. It belongs to Israel. I've spent time there so don't even try and peddle that shit about the poor "Palestinians". Remove the PLA, Hamas, and Hizbollah and all the shit would stop.
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Horse hockey. I've been and sat a the same dinner table with Israeli's, Palestinians, Egyptians and Lebanese. It's an amazing place and not at all how it is shown on "T.V."
Yeah, you went to occupied Palestine and went with Palestinians who have to go through IDF-managed checkpoints whenever they go a few miles on their own territory?

An honest assessment is Zionism is no different in character nor intention than Apartheid was 30 years ago in South Africa!

The only difference is the economic clout of zionists compared to white separatists in South Africa...who did maintain the support of the US, British(thanks to Thatcher) and Israelis(who were providing the South African Government the technology to make nuclear weapons...put that in your pipe and smoke it). But, none of the rightwing trio of the 80's was willing to risk it all for Apartheid South Africa in the same way that the both US political parties are willing to do for Israel today...where no amount of money is too much for the IDF and no laws too undemocratic to prevent the non-violent BDS Movement from being persecuted as a hate group in Democrat and Republican states!

Sprinkle a little truth on this horseshit and what we're seeing today is that US foreign policy since the fall of the shah of Iran has been the US favoriing the corrupt Sunni Saudis and Gulf Emirs against the Shias. If the Shias are more anti-Israel today than the Saudi-dominated sunni majority nations, it's because...as we've learned through the attempted regime change in Syria, Israel is an integral part of the club that organized and instigated sending militants in to Syria to overthrow the government.

None of this makes any sense as issues of religious adherence, because it's an issue about conflict between natives and settler colonialism.
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No need. It belongs to Israel. I've spent time there so don't even try and peddle that shit about the poor "Palestinians". Remove the PLA, Hamas, and Hizbollah and all the shit would stop.
Just as the indigenous "Indians" were portrayed as savage beasts who just wanted to kill settlers, Palestinians and Arabs in general are portrayed today as savages who just want to kill Jews for no reason! Look at the maps before 1948 and the demographic data. I don't have any more time for your propaganda...certainly not today!
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There is no such thing as a "Palestinian". They're Jordanians, Egyptians, etc. Palestine is a region, and never was a state or people. Arafat was an Egyptian. The Palestinians are pawns, nothing more.
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Look up the word "Nakba" which your zionist sources are trying to cleanse off the internet! It's like American history...force people off the land then write about all the new virgin land you discovered provided by God. No wonder American rightists feel such close affinity with Israel!
Nakba

I have explained in My post "Nakba", that the Palestinian Nakba was the result of an internal Palestinian quarrel between Al Husseini and Nashashibi clans. Nashashibis have agreed to the UN partition plan, and sought to include the Palestinian territories into united Palestine-Jordan state, under king Abdallah. The pupil of Hitler, Amin al Husseini, tried to derail this common Abdallah-Nashashibi project due to exacerbation of the conflict with the Jews. According to many testimonies, he, Amin al Husseini, ordered Palestinians to leave their homes. Finally, Amin al Husseini initiated the assassination of Jordan king Abdallah.
Another his purpose was to force on the Arab states a war against the forthcoming Jewish State, under pretext of saving the Palestinians from Catastrophe (Naqba).

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I have explained in My post "Nakba", that the Palestinian Nakba was the result of an internal Palestinian quarrel between Al Husseini and Nashashibi clans. Nashashibis have agreed to the UN partition plan, and sought to include the Palestinian territories into united Palestine-Jordan state, under king Abdallah. The pupil of Hitler, Amin al Husseini, tried to derail this common Abdallah-Nashashibi project due to exacerbation of the conflict with the Jews. According to many testimonies, he, Amin al Husseini, ordered Palestinians to leave their homes. Finally, Amin al Husseini initiated the assassination of Jordan king Abdallah.
Another his purpose was to force on the Arab states a war against the forthcoming Jewish State, under pretext of saving the Palestinians from Catastrophe (Naqba).
For Muslims, who worship the Holy Qur'an, Muhammad's conflict with the Jews continues up to this day, in the form of the Israeli-Islamic conflict. The Palestine-Israel conflict is only small part of the Holy War (Jihad) against the Jews. By the way, Amin al Husseini called his 50.000 men Palestinian forces "The Army of Holy War" ("The Army of Jihad").
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This is a 5000 year old family feud. Cousins killing cousins.
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There is no such thing as a "Palestinian". They're Jordanians, Egyptians, etc. Palestine is a region, and never was a state or people. Arafat was an Egyptian. The Palestinians are pawns, nothing more.
There is no such thing as an Israeli! The modern state of Israel is a contrivance based on up to 2500 year old mythical narratives! What is mostly likely historical from the Biblical accounts is the Kingdom of Israel being destroyed by the Assyrian Empire because they stood in the way of their march into Egypt...while the Judean Kingdom to the south, stayed out of the way and paid tribute demanded by the Assyrians. Were these tribes all from the same lineage and ever part of one kingdom? You can't verify even that from real historical and archaeological records.

As for Palestinians...even though they were long ago overun by the Turks(Ottoman Empire)people living in the present day lands..including those forced to flee during the Nakba, can trace their lineages back for generations..going back centuries. Whether they were there 3000 years ago, who gives a crap? If they've been living there for generations and wanted to be independent after the Turks were driven out, that means they no longer wanted to be occupied...by Britain or zionists flooding in calling themselves the original inhabitants!
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