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Old November 11th, 2017, 10:21 AM   #31
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There is no such thing as a "Palestinian". They're Jordanians, Egyptians, etc. Palestine is a region, and never was a state or people. Arafat was an Egyptian. The Palestinians are pawns, nothing more.
"Palestine" is right in that British Mandate of territories seized after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, which even you should have heard of because of the recent 100 year anniversary of Lord Balfour's ill-thought out declaration to turn a land with a 6% Jewish population into something he termed "a Jewish homeland," whatever that was supposed to mean! That stupid declaration "there's no such thing as a Palestinian" was at the time, the shocking declaration of that ugly old Golda Meir back in the 70's. In actual fact, it's her side that has no historic legitimacy, besides what has to be granted now because so many damn people have been moved into Palestine from outside!

Actually, there is no such thing as an Israeli! According to the best historical records, the Kingdom of Israel(which did not include Judah!) was destroyed by the Assyrians in about the year- 720 b.c.e. The surviving Israelites were taken away in bondage and sold off in slavery, losing their birthrights and heritage..among the many ancient nations in that embattled region to be wiped from the pages of history!

So who is an Israeli today? Just clowns conflating ancient biblical mixture of myth and history into claiming some sort of entitlement to lands they never lived in or even on the slight chance they actually had ancestors from the region...hadn't been there for 2000 years, as the land was taken over by many other different groups of people.
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Israel is the "promised land" for the world's 3 major religions. They each think the others don't have a right to exist. Anyone see a problem here?
The three religions need to acknowledge that their holy books are NOT history books!
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The three religions need to acknowledge that their holy books are NOT history books!
And scientists and historians need to acknowledge that they do not know where it all began and how nothing turned into the universe. When they do, they will do like Einstein and consider God.
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The Jews and Arabs have always been enemies. The Khazars who reside in Israel today are also enemies of Islam, but they're more clever. They get others to do their fighting for them while they finance the wars and sit back and laugh.
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"Palestine" is right in that British Mandate of territories seized after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, which even you should have heard of because of the recent 100 year anniversary of Lord Balfour's ill-thought out declaration to turn a land with a 6% Jewish population into something he termed "a Jewish homeland," whatever that was supposed to mean! That stupid declaration "there's no such thing as a Palestinian" was at the time, the shocking declaration of that ugly old Golda Meir back in the 70's. In actual fact, it's her side that has no historic legitimacy, besides what has to be granted now because so many damn people have been moved into Palestine from outside!

Actually, there is no such thing as an Israeli! According to the best historical records, the Kingdom of Israel(which did not include Judah!) was destroyed by the Assyrians in about the year- 720 b.c.e. The surviving Israelites were taken away in bondage and sold off in slavery, losing their birthrights and heritage..among the many ancient nations in that embattled region to be wiped from the pages of history!

So who is an Israeli today? Just clowns conflating ancient biblical mixture of myth and history into claiming some sort of entitlement to lands they never lived in or even on the slight chance they actually had ancestors from the region...hadn't been there for 2000 years, as the land was taken over by many other different groups of people.
There was a nation of Israel and it's been restored. There was never a nation called "Palestine". Sorry, but you can't rewrite history. Israel will last forever.
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"Palestine" is right in that British Mandate of territories seized after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, which even you should have heard of because of the recent 100 year anniversary of Lord Balfour's ill-thought out declaration to turn a land with a 6% Jewish population into something he termed "a Jewish homeland," whatever that was supposed to mean! That stupid declaration "there's no such thing as a Palestinian" was at the time, the shocking declaration of that ugly old Golda Meir back in the 70's. In actual fact, it's her side that has no historic legitimacy, besides what has to be granted now because so many damn people have been moved into Palestine from outside!

Actually, there is no such thing as an Israeli! According to the best historical records, the Kingdom of Israel(which did not include Judah!) was destroyed by the Assyrians in about the year- 720 b.c.e. The surviving Israelites were taken away in bondage and sold off in slavery, losing their birthrights and heritage..among the many ancient nations in that embattled region to be wiped from the pages of history!

So who is an Israeli today? Just clowns conflating ancient biblical mixture of myth and history into claiming some sort of entitlement to lands they never lived in or even on the slight chance they actually had ancestors from the region...hadn't been there for 2000 years, as the land was taken over by many other different groups of people.
Joan Peters rightly recalls, that up to 1964 there was no Palestinian people. Palestinians called themselves simply Arabs, or stated, that they are Syrians. Some part decided, that they belong to Hashemite kingdom of Jordan. Some part (more precisely, the majority) believes today that they are part of the Islamic Ummah, which is obliged to destroy Israel and throw the Jews into the sea, as required by the tradition of Islam.

Today, the Palestinian majority votes for the Hamas Charter,which justifies the Muslims’ right to Palestine by the fact that in the 7th century the Caliph of Muslims issued a decree (letter) in which Iraq and Syria were declared the property of Muslims. True, in the same letter, the Caliph allowed Christians and Jews to remain on these lands under condition, that they would cultivate land and pay the tax to the Muslims. Palestine is not mentioned in this letter, so, the supporters of Hamas believe that Palestine is part of Syria. In the Qur’an, the name Palestine is not mentioned at all. So the whole Mankind recognized the existence of a separate Palestinian Arab people, contrary to the opinion of most Palestinians themselves. This is another paradox of anti-Semitism.
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Well, let’s accept, that in 1964 Palestinians have decided definitely, that they are just Palestinians. Let’s accept, that the Palestinian People was born, and it won’t disappear anymore. We Jews should recognize Palestine and do the utmost to prevent Palestinians from posing themselves the «victims», persecuted by the Jews, from getting money for their victimhood, and from giving anti-Semites pretext to persecute Israel and the Jews.
Therefore any peace solution must recognize the rights of Israel and the rights of Palestine. We Jews are most interested in recognizing the already existing state of Palestine. Of course, as long as this state is waging a war of destruction against us, and cooperates with anti-Semites, we will occupy it legally.
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