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Old October 31st, 2017, 06:23 AM   #1
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Why are Shiites eager to destroy Israel?

In Mecca, Muhammad treated the Jews mostly positively, especially as we regard the Jewish kings, prophets and patriarchs, whom he declared «Muslims.» But in Medina Muhammad faced rejection and criticism from the Jews. Most likely, he was reproached with ignorance of the text of the Torah and illiteracy.

Then Muhammad made a 180 degree turn, announced that the Jews «moved the sheets» in the Torah, and that he, Muhammad, received the «true» text of the Scripture directly from Allah. And he tried to get rid of Jews at all.

So, in the 624th year of the Christian era, Muhammad drove the Jewish tribe Banu Kaynuka from Medina, then in the 625th he drove the tribe of Banu Nadir, and in 627 destroyed the last Jews in Medina, the Banu Qurayza tribe. To sum up: at the arrival of Muhammad in Yathrib (Medina) the oasis had a Jewish majority, and there was only one pagan Aus tribe, then ten years later there were no Jews left. Both the Gentiles Aus and the Khazraj Jews accepted Islam. Then the oasis Yathrib became, I would say, «judenfrei».

The guilt of the Kurayza Jews was that during the siege of Medina by the Mecca army, Qurayza tribe entered into negotiations with the Meccans and did not actively support the actions of Muhammad. They, as it said, «sat on the fence.» You could understand them: just before that, Muhammad expelled and robbed their relatives, the Jewish clans of Kaynuka and Nadir. And the Qurayzites themselves were in danger because of their unwillingness to betray the Jewish faith.

Nevertheless, after hesitation, the Qurayzites broke their agreement with Mecca, after which the Meccans retreated from Medina with nothing. You can say that the Qurayzites saved Muhammad for his misfortune. Immediately after the retreat of the Meccans, Muhammad turned his army against the Qurayza and besieged their fortress.

In the negotiations, Muhammad promised to keep the Qurayza alive, while the latterpledged to give up their homes and fields and to leave Medina. Such conditions were arranged by the soldiers of Muhammad, the Ansar, whose purpose was only the appropriation of other people’s property.

But, as it turned out, Muhammad had a different goal. When the Qurayza soldiers surrendered at the mercy of the victor and surrendered their weapons, Muhammad changed his word. He ordered his faithful assistant, Ali, to behead captive men and teenagers. According to the Islamic tradition, which is known to any Muslim schoolchild, Ali ibn Abu Talib, with the help of a slave, decapitated 900 captives, who were previously tied up.

Why did Muhammad plan and carry out this brutal massacre? I suppose, that he did not want to let Qurayza fled to the Khaybar oasis where they may team up with their exiled brothers from the clans Nadir and Kaynuka. Hence, Muhammad already planned further destruction of Jews in Arabia, including a campaign against Khaybar, which he performed a few years later.

Muhammad entrusted the morally difficult task of massacre not to numerous Ansar warriors, but to one man, his most faithful assistant, Ali ibn Abu Talib:

«In the history of Islam, Ali entered as a tragic figure [3]. The Sunnis view him as the last of the four righteous caliphs. The Shiites worship Ali as the first imam and as a saint, with special ties of intimacy connected with Muhammad as a righteous man, a warrior and a leader. He is credited with numerous military feats and miracles. «

The Islamic tradition does not explain why did Ali alone agreed to perform this dirty, bloody «work.» It seems that the Ansar were generally against such reprisals, which violated the rules of honor and tradition of the tribes of Arabia.

From this story, which is well known to all Muslims, we may understand, why the Shiites are so eager to destroy Israel. After all, for the Shiites, unlike the Sunnis, Ali is not just the «fourth righteous Caliph», he is the First Imam, almost as holy as Muhammad. His acts serve an example for two hundred million Shiites. Every devout Shiite must emulate the Great Holy Imam Ali. That is, to execute the genocide of the Jews in the name and on behalf of Allah. If so Muhammad and Ali did, then Shiites and all Muslims are obliged to do the same.

And it does not matter how such actions seem immoral to mere mortals. Not the human morality, but the fear of the terrible Allah — this is the core of Muhammad’s doctrine. The Holy Qur'an lacks any human moral code. By imitating Muhammad and Ali, and destroying the Jews, the Shiites consider they fulfill their duty to fit the will of Allah. As true believers, they see this as the fulfillment of their religious duty. From islamist point of view, Muhammad's war against the Jews continues up to this day, in the form of Israeli-Islamist war.

According to the model of Great Ali, Muslims have to bind these Israeli Jews’ hands so, that they cannot shirk. But how they may do it? The answer to this question I found in the well-known open letter of the previous Iranian President Ahmadinejad to the German people (Me personally have read this letter on Ahmadinejad’s website).

The Iranian president urged the German people to «shake off» the burden of guilt for the Holocaust of the Jews. Denial of the Holocaust has become one of the main motives of Iran’s domestic and foreign propaganda. It seems that this appeal fell on favorable ground. Today, the sinking European empire led by Germany is closely cooperating with Iran. All sanctions on Iran have been lifted, while the threat of sanctions against Israel is becoming more real.

The dispute over Palestine is for the Shiites rather an excuse for aggression. But the «liberation of Jerusalem» has an important religious significance for the Shiites. That is why did Iran played a leading role in disrupting the Oslo Accords. Iranians and Hezbollah, which is financed entirely by Iran, were the first to pay generous pensions to Shahid families. The so-called «terror of Oslo», from the point of view of financing and logistics, was the work of Hezbollah.

The Muslims relied on global anti-Semitism, and won. The UN is engaged in de-legitimizing and persecuting of Israel. The Pope declared Islam «the religion of peace.» In the eyes of Muslims, this declaration is tantamount to the blessing the genocide of the Jews. It turns out that Christians are not going to hinder the Islamists in their bloody «work.» Following the example of Ali, the Shiites want to destroy Israel with maximum comfort, that is, that Jews have their hands tied.

Yes, the Israeli generals want a war with Hezbollah immediately. After all, when Assad wins in Syria, the Assad army, which has accumulated great combat experience, and Hezbollah, which is stronger than ever before, and the Iranian forces in Syria, and Hamas, who prepared an extensive system of underground bunkers and tunnels, stuffing them with a lot of rockets and other weapons. It is not ruled out that Russia will provide air cover to the aggressors.

We’d better beat the enemies one at a time, but it’s unlikely that the United States and Russia will give Israel such a luxury. The US administration is paralyzed by internal strife. The presidential adviser on national security is known for his pro-Islamic position, and he voiced his rejection of the Israeli idea of ​​a preemptive strike.

The hands of Israel are tied. Ali is ready to chop our heads.

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'Israel' is a racist colonial hell-hole, the last survival of Nazism, which its founders supposed they'd better imitate to survive. Without the support of American racists it wouldn't last a week. It totally disgraces the Jewish people.
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'Israel' is a racist colonial hell-hole, the last survival of Nazism, which its founders supposed they'd better imitate to survive. Without the support of American racists it wouldn't last a week. It totally disgraces the Jewish people.
LOL, says a twit who has never been there.
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LOL, says a twit who has never been there.
I meant to go there when I was too young to know better (what's a foreskin between friends?). Fortunately I met some Palestinians and learned what the reality was before I did anything so silly.
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I meant to go there when I was too young to know better (what's a foreskin between friends?). Fortunately I met some Palestinians and learned what the reality was before I did anything so silly.
Horse hockey. I've been and sat a the same dinner table with Israeli's, Palestinians, Egyptians and Lebanese. It's an amazing place and not at all how it is shown on "T.V."
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'Israel' is a racist colonial hell-hole, the last survival of Nazism, which its founders supposed they'd better imitate to survive. Without the support of American racists it wouldn't last a week. It totally disgraces the Jewish people.
My post is based on an analysis of well or less known facts. You don't comment any facts. Instead, You are chanting bored slogans. I dislike such comments.
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Horse hockey. I've been and sat a the same dinner table with Israeli's, Palestinians, Egyptians and Lebanese. It's an amazing place and not at all how it is shown on "T.V."
There are civilized persons in it, as there were in Nazi Germany. They just have no influence on its evil behaviour. The country, as you know, belongs to the Palestinians.
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My post is based on an analysis of well or less known facts. You don't comment any facts. Instead, You are chanting bored slogans. I dislike such comments.

Why do Shia Muslims dislike a colonial power stealing Muslim land and indulging in ethnic cleansing? It hardly seems to be a very hard question, surely?
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Why do Shia Muslims dislike a colonial power stealing Muslim land and indulging in ethnic cleansing? It hardly seems to be a very hard question, surely?
I've already explained this question in another post "Why do Ayatollahs benefit from destroying Israel". In short words, Iranian ayatollah's regime turned itself new colonial, imperialist power. . You don't distinguish quick and drastic developments in our World Village.
Like other imperialist and fascist powers, Ayatollahs exploit anti-Semitism with the purpose to suppress the progress of Iran people and to keep their backward regime. Regarding Palestinians, they took the role of Main World supplier of anti-Semitic materials. In exchange, Palestine get a massive money influx, which allows Palestine to wage endless war against the Jews.
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There are civilized persons in it, as there were in Nazi Germany. They just have no influence on its evil behaviour. The country, as you know, belongs to the Palestinians.
No, it actually doesn't. Israel belongs to Israel.
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