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Old January 28th, 2018, 01:11 PM   #1
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Jewish settlement, or Zionism, comes from injustice of the past, when the Jews were not only expelled, but also murdered, robbed and starved to death by the very ancestors of contemporary Palestinians. The settlers believe their doing to be just a correction of millennium long injustice. The worldwide condemning and sanctions against «settler colonialism» they consider as antisemitic bigotry. And most of Israelis agree with this opinion.

Moreover, the Palestinians agree, too. After expulsion of the Jews from Gaza was performed (2005), the Palestinian majority voted for the war, that is HAMAS. It was clear message: Jews must be expelled, murdered and robbed just like their ancestors in medieval Palestine were.

If we seek equality and peace, we must understand this truth and take proper stance. I believe, Trump has made proper conclusion. Maybe, he makes tactical errors, but his main direction is logical and correct.

Here, I feel need to clarify some my assertions. The Muslims settled Palestine largely after Crusaders’ defeat. Simultaneously, Christians and Jews almost «disappeared», supposedly due to famine, plague and sword. Since then, Muslims robbed, terrorized and murdered the remainders of Palestine Jews, and prevented Zionism, that is Jewish immigration and settling of empty land by the Jews. In another hand, Muslims haven’t prevented Christian settling of the Holy land. Therefore Christian population of Palestine increased by 400% in the course of 4 centuries. Several Arab villages of Galilee were settled by both Muslims and Christians after local (non-Zionist) Jews «disappeared» from these localities. Such is archaeology and history of Palestine under Muslim rule.
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Old January 28th, 2018, 01:35 PM   #2
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Isaac and Ishmael syndrome
because Sara convinced Abraham not to wait on God and their son to come. Ishmael was born and it has been hell since.
Then Jesus came along, then Mohammad came along and the decendants of Abraham are as the sand, trying to go in three different ways....In Religion....
Christianity........Islam........Judaism...
Because of SARA and abraham?
Because of EVE and adam?

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Old January 28th, 2018, 02:16 PM   #3
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Jewish settlement, or Zionism, comes from injustice of the past, when the Jews were not only expelled, but also murdered, robbed and starved to death by the very ancestors of contemporary Palestinians. The settlers believe their doing to be just a correction of millennium long injustice. The worldwide condemning and sanctions against «settler colonialism» they consider as antisemitic bigotry. And most of Israelis agree with this opinion.

Moreover, the Palestinians agree, too. After expulsion of the Jews from Gaza was performed (2005), the Palestinian majority voted for the war, that is HAMAS. It was clear message: Jews must be expelled, murdered and robbed just like their ancestors in medieval Palestine were.

If we seek equality and peace, we must understand this truth and take proper stance. I believe, Trump has made proper conclusion. Maybe, he makes tactical errors, but his main direction is logical and correct.

Here, I feel need to clarify some my assertions. The Muslims settled Palestine largely after Crusaders’ defeat. Simultaneously, Christians and Jews almost «disappeared», supposedly due to famine, plague and sword. Since then, Muslims robbed, terrorized and murdered the remainders of Palestine Jews, and prevented Zionism, that is Jewish immigration and settling of empty land by the Jews. In another hand, Muslims haven’t prevented Christian settling of the Holy land. Therefore Christian population of Palestine increased by 400% in the course of 4 centuries. Several Arab villages of Galilee were settled by both Muslims and Christians after local (non-Zionist) Jews «disappeared» from these localities. Such is archaeology and history of Palestine under Muslim rule.
The only thing that Palestinians agree on is that all Jews need to be killed.......
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Jewish settlement, or Zionism, comes from injustice of the past, when the Jews were not only expelled, but also murdered, robbed and starved to death by the very ancestors of contemporary Palestinians. The settlers believe their doing to be just a correction of millennium long injustice. The worldwide condemning and sanctions against «settler colonialism» they consider as antisemitic bigotry. And most of Israelis agree with this opinion.

Moreover, the Palestinians agree, too. After expulsion of the Jews from Gaza was performed (2005), the Palestinian majority voted for the war, that is HAMAS. It was clear message: Jews must be expelled, murdered and robbed just like their ancestors in medieval Palestine were.

If we seek equality and peace, we must understand this truth and take proper stance. I believe, Trump has made proper conclusion. Maybe, he makes tactical errors, but his main direction is logical and correct.

Here, I feel need to clarify some my assertions. The Muslims settled Palestine largely after Crusaders’ defeat. Simultaneously, Christians and Jews almost «disappeared», supposedly due to famine, plague and sword. Since then, Muslims robbed, terrorized and murdered the remainders of Palestine Jews, and prevented Zionism, that is Jewish immigration and settling of empty land by the Jews. In another hand, Muslims haven’t prevented Christian settling of the Holy land. Therefore Christian population of Palestine increased by 400% in the course of 4 centuries. Several Arab villages of Galilee were settled by both Muslims and Christians after local (non-Zionist) Jews «disappeared» from these localities. Such is archaeology and history of Palestine under Muslim rule.
Didn't the Romans expel the Jews? Also, were the Palestinian Jews completely wiped out?
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Didn't the Romans expel the Jews? Also, were the Palestinian Jews completely wiped out?
The Jews remained the majority of Palestine population until 4 century CE, despite of 70 and 136 CE expulsions by Romans. Until Crusades, the Jews were considerable part of Palestine population, especially in Galilee, where Jews remained majority. The "disappearance" of the Jews ocured under Mamluch rule, followed by Chorezmian, Mongol ant Turks invasions, however, small Jewish groups of local origin survived. Medieval Zionists made efforts to settle in Jerusalem and Palestine starting from Crusaders' period..

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The Jews remained the majority of Palestine population until 4 century CE, despite of 70 and 136 CE expulsions by Romans. Until Crusades, the Jews were considerable part of Palestine population, especially in Galilee, where Jews remained majority. The "disappearance" of the Jews ocured under Mamluch rule, followed by Chorezmian, Mongol ant Turks invasions, however, small Jewish groups of local origin survived. Medieval Zionists made efforts to settle in Jerusalem and Palestine starting from Crusaders' period..
The Irish parliament gave initial approval to a bill that would boycott goods produced by Israeli companies. Israel is enraged.

By: World Israel News Staff

The Irish parliament, the Seanad, on Tuesday gave initial approval to a bill that would boycott goods produced by Israeli companies based in Judea and Samaria and the Golan Heights.

The Control of Economic Activity (Occupied Territories) Bill 2018 would make it a violation of Irish criminal law to purchase goods and services from Israeli companies based in Judea and Samaria and the Golan Heights. It would punish violators with up to five years in prison.

Independent senator Frances Black, who introduced the bill, has previously signed a letter calling for a boycott of all Israeli products and services.

My comment: Sanctions by government, including imprisonment for violation of such sanctions, is act of war. Since Ireland haven’t impose such sanctions in all other cases of international conflicts, for example conflict over Kashmir, Karabakh, Kurdistan etc, the Irish law should be considered racist antisemitic law, a sort of Nuremberg laws of Hitler.
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