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Old September 19th, 2016, 12:33 PM   #11
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How about some serious immigration reform ?? Let's clear up the issue if children of illegals. Let's make using e-verify law, accompanied by HUGE fines for failing to do so. How about fixing the VA ?? How about some infrastructure maintenance.
I agree that those need fixed, but they are not the job of Congress nor are any of them in federal powers under the Constitution.

The VA is justifiable under the military clauses of Article 1, Section 8.
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Old September 19th, 2016, 01:35 PM   #12
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How about some serious immigration reform ?? Let's clear up the issue if children of illegals. Let's make using e-verify law, accompanied by HUGE fines for failing to do so. How about fixing the VA ?? How about some infrastructure maintenance.
We should make e-verify a law and require all workers is the US carry a federally issued identification card w/ a microchip in it holding all of the workers information (including banking) and real time location.


That sounds like Liberty and freedom.
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Old September 19th, 2016, 01:37 PM   #13
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Try section 8 of Article 1 jimmb.

My thoughts are simple. I just believe the median household income is being inflated due to more people (mainly the younger generation) moving in with each other or their parents. Therefore contributing to the household income. Individual income is still terrible.

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Old September 19th, 2016, 01:43 PM   #14
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Try section 8 of Article 1 jimmb.

My thoughts are simple. I just believe the median household income is being inflated due to more people (mainly the younger generation) moving in with each other or their parents. Therefore contributing to the household income. Individual income is still terrible.

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Article 1, Section does not grant any of the powers listed in Bubba's post other than the VA.

The median household income for male and female American full time workers did not go up 5%, but went up 2%. This is before the negative income growth rate from 2009-2015 is deducted for an Obama average.
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Article 1, Section does not grant any of the powers listed in Bubba's post other than the VA.

The median household income for male and female American full time workers did not go up 5%, but went up 2%. This is before the negative income growth rate from 2009-2015 is deducted for an Obama average.
I got that. Not arguing that you're wrong. The use of nominal and real numbers is important. To bubba's point (or mine), the "general" part in the constitution means just that. It's general or overall. So it's whatever we believe our tax dollars should go towards.

Its constitutional.
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Anymore thoughts as for why our median household income have rising?
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I got that. Not arguing that you're wrong. The use of nominal and real numbers is important. To bubba's point (or mine), the "general" part in the constitution means just that. It's general or overall. So it's whatever we believe our tax dollars should go towards.

Its constitutional.
There is no "general part in the construction." It as explicitly known by the founders. It would have never been ratified the were general powers.
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Anymore thoughts as for why our median household income have rising?
The median household income for male and female American full time workers did not go up 5%, but went up 2%. This is before the negative income growth rate from 2009-2015 is deducted for an Obama average.
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There is no "general part in the construction." It as explicitly known by the founders. It would have never been ratified the were general powers.
Yeah Yeah Yeah. Alexander Hamilton and Madison debated this and our Supreme Court ruled that Hamilton was right. Love or hate the SC its constitutional.
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The median household income for male and female American full time workers did not go up 5%, but went up 2%. This is before the negative income growth rate from 2009-2015 is deducted for an Obama average.
Okay
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