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Old January 25th, 2017, 03:19 PM   #1
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Trump's latest threat, BMW won't budge on Mexican plant

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second time in the span of just one week, the automaker has made it clear: It's building a plant in Mexico, regardless of what Donald Trump thinks.
In an interview with German news magazine Bild published this weekend, Trump said that BMW should reconsider plans to build a $1 billion plant in San Luis Potosí, Mexico. The automaker plans to begin building the BMW 3 Series sedan there in 2019.

"I would tell them, don't waste their time and money -- unless they want to sell to other countries," he said. "But I would tell BMW if they think they're gonna build a plant in Mexico and sell cars into the US without a 35% tax, it's not gonna happen."

Trump has attacked several other automakers, including Ford Motor (F), General Motors (GM) and Toyota (TM), for shifting car production to Mexico. Ford actually pulled the plug on its plans to build a $1.6 billion plant in Mexico two weeks ago, and said it would invest in an expansion of a Michigan plant instead.

BMW says that it will sell the cars it makes in Mexico all over the world, including in the United States, regardless of Trump's plan to impose a tarriff on any Mexican-built car that come into the U.S.

The new Mexican plant is meant to be a boost to the Series 3 production that's already underway in Germany and China -- BMW isn't relocating any jobs to Mexico.

BMW's largest plant in the world is in Spartanburg, S.C., that employs 8,800 workers. The facility assembled more than 400,000 X model crossover vehicles last year, 70% of which were shipped to other countries. In fact, BMW is the largest U.S. exporter of cars.
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We could use the import-tax to help build the Wall.
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Old January 25th, 2017, 03:30 PM   #3
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We could use the import-tax to help build the Wall.
Germany has passed some goofy law to have all "German built" cars to be electric by like 2020 or some shit. So I am guessing that they are just going to move manufacturing out of Germany. Why not Mexico. They build all the big gaudy SUVs here as we are the ones who buy them.
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BMW is not an American company. So is Trump going to threaten a huge tariff for anything made in Mexico? What about Tequila or DOS XX beer? Or anything else Mexico makes that can be made in the USA?

Hell, why stop there? Why not slap a tariff on Canadian syrup to protect Aunt Jemima? Will Trump just demand everything sold in America to be made in America or risk a crippling tariff?

Why not get on Walmart for their abhorrent business practices? I read several years ago about a cheap pair of Walmart jeans which sold for about $10 which were made by a sweat shop factory in Bangladesh by women and girls making (drum roll) 15 CENTS an hour. Yes FIFTEEN CENTS A FUCKING HOUR. The workers were trying to organize to up their wages to (drum roll) 30 cents an hour and were refused. The women have no choice and are clearly being exploited. Walmart is disgusting, and are owned by the heirs of Sam Walton who are worth literally about ten to twenty times Trump.

Has Trump thought that maybe a foreign company like BMW would hire a few thousand Mexicans at wages to where the Mexicans will stay in Mexico and not come to the USA? And again, back to the idea that Trump will tariff anything coming from Mexico while building his ridiculous wall?

Trump or Hillary would have mucked up the country, but Trump is much more entertaining.
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BMW is not an American company. So is Trump going to threaten a huge tariff for anything made in Mexico? What about Tequila or DOS XX beer? Or anything else Mexico makes that can be made in the USA?

Hell, why stop there? Why not slap a tariff on Canadian syrup to protect Aunt Jemima? Will Trump just demand everything sold in America to be made in America or risk a crippling tariff?

Why not get on Walmart for their abhorrent business practices? I read several years ago about a cheap pair of Walmart jeans which sold for about $10 which were made by a sweat shop factory in Bangladesh by women and girls making (drum roll) 15 CENTS an hour. Yes FIFTEEN CENTS A FUCKING HOUR. The workers were trying to organize to up their wages to (drum roll) 30 cents an hour and were refused. The women have no choice and are clearly being exploited. Walmart is disgusting, and are owned by the heirs of Sam Walton who are worth literally about ten to twenty times Trump.

Has Trump thought that maybe a foreign company like BMW would hire a few thousand Mexicans at wages to where the Mexicans will stay in Mexico and not come to the USA? And again, back to the idea that Trump will tariff anything coming from Mexico while building his ridiculous wall?

Trump or Hillary would have mucked up the country, but Trump is much more entertaining.
Tequila, I hadn't thought of that. That sucks. Where can we grow Agave cacti? Not too many places I bet and I bet where we can grow it is soon to be a war zone near the wall somewhere. Sucks.

And it's bizarre. Trump is telling a German automaker that if it makes a wise capitalist decision and taps into a more favorable profit-enhancing labor market that they can't do that, or if they do he's thinking about slapping a 35-45 percent, depends on the day, tariff on their stuff if they want to sell it in the US.
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There is a huge BMW auto plant in either Tennessee, South Carolina or North Carolina that I passed more than once on the interstate but forget exactly where. Is BMW going to close down the American plant in favor of Mexico? I don't know anybody who drives a BMW in the US and only rarely see one on the road. BMW is history.
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Tequila, I hadn't thought of that. That sucks. Where can we grow Agave cacti? Not too many places I bet and I bet where we can grow it is soon to be a war zone near the wall somewhere. Sucks.

And it's bizarre. Trump is telling a German automaker that if it makes a wise capitalist decision and taps into a more favorable profit-enhancing labor market that they can't do that, or if they do he's thinking about slapping a 35-45 percent, depends on the day, tariff on their stuff if they want to sell it in the US.
Just the Mexican made ones. The thing is that they would recoup the loss in profit on the 3ers sold in the states vs paying US labor on them world wide. The f30s are no longer the enthusiasts car that the 3 series once was. The SUVs are their biggest sellers in the states and I am guessing that they will just push/build the 1/2 series in the states. Also the development of the i line. It is a good move IMO. In the world market.
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There is a huge BMW auto plant in either Tennessee, South Carolina or North Carolina that I passed more than once on the interstate but forget exactly where. Is BMW going to close down the American plant in favor of Mexico? I don't know anybody who drives a BMW in the US and only rarely see one on the road. BMW is history.
They build most of the SUVs there and I believe that is where most of them are made for the world market.

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BMW's largest plant in the world is in Spartanburg, S.C., that employs 8,800 workers. The facility assembled more than 400,000 X model crossover vehicles last year, 70% of which were shipped to other countries. In fact, BMW is the largest U.S. exporter of cars.

The "X" are the SUV style bimmers.
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They build most of the SUVs there and I believe that is where most of them are made for the world market.

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The "X" are the SUV style bimmers.
I equate SUV with Minivan and an X-Bimmer means unknown bimmer.
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There is a huge BMW auto plant in either Tennessee, South Carolina or North Carolina that I passed more than once on the interstate but forget exactly where. Is BMW going to close down the American plant in favor of Mexico? I don't know anybody who drives a BMW in the US and only rarely see one on the road. BMW is history.
You "rarely see a BMW on the road?" And you don't know anybody that drives a BMW? "BMW is history." WTF???
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