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Old January 7th, 2018, 11:11 AM   #11
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I believe the purpose of this thread is to meet Lovebug and welcome him/her to the forum. We seem to have strayed a bit.

So that being said, "Welcome to DDT" which might more appropriately be named (at least in some cases) "Defending my Personal Unsubstantiated Opinion", which is okay and most of us don't take offense to unless someone gets nasty and falls back to juvenile insults and name-calling. I assure you those are a loud minority, and they are usually trolls who don't stay long because most of us eventually take to ignoring them. At least we try. I'd say we're a pretty open and tolerant group.
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Old January 7th, 2018, 11:26 AM   #12
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Athena!! Incredible post and thank you. You have expressed yourself beautifully, but I do have a point of order....and I mentioned this to you via PM.
My back-up BAND has always been here on DTT, singing "Rama-Lama-Ding dong", go, Clara!! AND I need to thank them--HEY guys--you KNOW who you are.
Moving on. DTT posters have discussed "respect" until we're all blue in the face and not much changes....because apparently there are ALL sorts of definitions. Who knew?
Many of us were raised in strict disciplinarian homes where disrespect was simply NOT tolerated and by disrespect I mean.... 1)Name calling 2) Profanity 3) Insults 4) Offensive remarks 5) Irresponsible/childish conduct.

We hear cries of "I hate all this PC crap" OR "I can't stand all this political correctness." "Apologists NOT ALLOWED. He/She says it like it is and there's nothing wrong with that." "Respect is EARNED--not given freely given."

The truth (IMO) is both parties (Left and Right) pull out the PC phrase when someone disagrees with them or demonstrates a little humility.
As far as I'm concerned PC is the same thing as good manners.
We learned a LONG time ago that honey attracts more bees than vinegar and we all need to compromise--at some point. Successful negotiations depend on the skill-set of how to communicate WITHOUT damaging the progress we've already made. We certainly can't be successful adults when we are rude and childish.

Having said all that, I am just as guilty as the next guy when it comes to losing my temper. Mr. Clara recently printed out a cartoon showing the little lady of the house next to a spewing volcano, because YES, I CAN erupt and I'm not happy with myself when I lose self-control. We all get frustrated. We all get challenged. The trick/solution to being an erupting volcano or a fierce tornado is that when it's over, it's over. I blow, but don't hold a grudge.

So again, thank you for bringing the word "respect" back to DTT as a reminder that we all need to work on it.
Clara, being angry is not all wrong. It can be necessary and effective to be "angry". Don't get me wrong. I well know the shame of losing my composure as a wave of anger puts me in the fight or flight or mode. But let's evaluate this more carefully.

It is really frightening to know I was not getting the response from my doctor I wanted after years of trying to get a correct diagnosis, because someone had put the wrong diagnosis in my medical record and he assumed it was correct. My condition worsened until I was determined I would not leave his office until he referred me to the specialist I needed for answers. But my determination did not lead to getting what I wanted, so I went into fight or flight mode. I angrily said the appointment was a waste of my time and left the room. This got his attention and lead to him figuring out the diagnosis in my medical was wrong. Let's analyze this a little further.

How much respect does a soft-spoken, small person get compared to the respect a large 6-foot 4-inch man, with a deep voice? When we are taken seriously and we are respected, the chances of us becoming angry drop dramatically. If you were a large man with a deep voice, it is unlikely your loving husband (?) would poke fun at you for being like a volcano.

Okay, I am ready for you all to throw rotten tomatoes at me. I am going to be sexist and anti-feminist. And also very Athena. Athena defended the patriarchy because going against the laws of nature doesn't work so well. She relied on the power of Zeus rather than compete with him for power. What we need from our husbands, as Abigal Adams would tell us is to be taken seriously and for them (the man) to take the action that needs to be taken. You might recall Abigal's husband was John Adams and she told him not to forget the women when working on the Constitution for the US. Unfortunately, John could no more to take on the issue of gender equality than he could take on the issue of slavery. You are right about political correctness being necessary to something as important as designing a Constitution that was agreeable to the most people. And I think I am right about males and females being different, or at least, having different potential depending on their perceived difference.

I think the intentions of transgender males are good, but they are poorly guided. Being a female is not a benefit if you want to make the world a better place. Well, at least not as long as being feminine and a stay at home homemaker is not respected. Bottom line, like little yippy dogs we have to compensate for being not being large men with deep voices. It sucks, but at least we can stop beating ourselves up for the facts of life.
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Old January 7th, 2018, 07:39 PM   #13
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Clara, being angry is not all wrong. It can be necessary and effective to be "angry". Don't get me wrong. I well know the shame of losing my composure as a wave of anger puts me in the fight or flight or mode. But let's evaluate this more carefully.

It is really frightening to know I was not getting the response from my doctor I wanted after years of trying to get a correct diagnosis, because someone had put the wrong diagnosis in my medical record and he assumed it was correct. My condition worsened until I was determined I would not leave his office until he referred me to the specialist I needed for answers. But my determination did not lead to getting what I wanted, so I went into fight or flight mode. I angrily said the appointment was a waste of my time and left the room. This got his attention and lead to him figuring out the diagnosis in my medical was wrong. Let's analyze this a little further.

How much respect does a soft-spoken, small person get compared to the respect a large 6-foot 4-inch man, with a deep voice? When we are taken seriously and we are respected, the chances of us becoming angry drop dramatically. If you were a large man with a deep voice, it is unlikely your loving husband (?) would poke fun at you for being like a volcano.

Okay, I am ready for you all to throw rotten tomatoes at me. I am going to be sexist and anti-feminist. And also very Athena. Athena defended the patriarchy because going against the laws of nature doesn't work so well. She relied on the power of Zeus rather than compete with him for power. What we need from our husbands, as Abigal Adams would tell us is to be taken seriously and for them (the man) to take the action that needs to be taken. You might recall Abigal's husband was John Adams and she told him not to forget the women when working on the Constitution for the US. Unfortunately, John could no more to take on the issue of gender equality than he could take on the issue of slavery. You are right about political correctness being necessary to something as important as designing a Constitution that was agreeable to the most people. And I think I am right about males and females being different, or at least, having different potential depending on their perceived difference.

I think the intentions of transgender males are good, but they are poorly guided. Being a female is not a benefit if you want to make the world a better place. Well, at least not as long as being feminine and a stay at home homemaker is not respected. Bottom line, like little yippy dogs we have to compensate for being not being large men with deep voices. It sucks, but at least we can stop beating ourselves up for the facts of life.
Please start a thread on this discussion which really has no place in a person's introductory thread.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 03:59 AM   #14
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Ok then, hi. I thought this is an intro thread.

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Old January 8th, 2018, 07:13 AM   #15
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Ok then, hi. I thought this is an intro thread.
Fixed. My apology for not fixing it sooner, Lovebug.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 08:15 AM   #16
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Wow. Welcome.

Sorry your introduction thread turned to a shit show.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 09:37 AM   #17
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It's all good. People need to vent. Thanks for the welcome messages though.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 09:57 AM   #18
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It's all good. People need to vent. Thanks for the welcome messages though.
You're a good sport, and we can't have too many of 'em.
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