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View Poll Results: How would you describe IC's politics?
liberal but anti-political party 0 0%
libertarian with a touch of anarchist 1 9.09%
liberal leaning but anti-authority of any kind 1 9.09%
IC is a spiderbot that dumps random links onto DTT 1 9.09%
any of the above, depending on the issue 2 18.18%
a meld so tangled it cannot be described 6 54.55%
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Old November 21st, 2009, 07:56 PM   #1
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IC's politics are best described as

Help me, I've been trying to pin down IC's politics.
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Old November 21st, 2009, 09:38 PM   #2
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Help me, I've been trying to pin down IC's politics.


Being the one on the spot, I can not vote! All I can say is ? Make your decision!



"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires" - -- Susan B Anthony. *



"The good we secure for ourselves is precarious and uncertain until it is secured for all of us and incorporated into our common life".-- Jane Addams *



"The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?" - -- John Adams *



"Even the sceptical mind must be prepared to accept the unacceptable when there is no alternative. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidae on our hands" - -- Douglas Adams *



"Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea." --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy *



"You want sanity, democracy, community, an intact Earth? We can't get there obeying Constitutional theory and law crafted by slave masters, imperialists, corporate masters, and Nature destroyers. We can't get there kneeling before robed lawyers stockpiling class plunder precedent up their venerable sleeves. So isn't disobedience the challenge of our age? Principled, inventive, escalating disobedience to liberate our souls, to transfigure our work as humans on this Earth." Richard Grossman *



"We live in a country that is addicted to incarceration as a tool for social control. As it stands now justice systems are extremely expensive, do not rehabilitate but in fact make the people that experience them worse and have no evidence based correlatives to reducing crime. Yet with that track record they continue to thrive, prosper and are seen as an appropriate response to children in trouble with the law. Only an addict would see that as an okay result." James Bell *





"In Southern West Virginia we live in a war zone. Three and one-half million pounds of explosives are being used every day to blow up the mountains. Blasting our communities, blasting our homes, poisoning us, trying to intimidate us. I don't mind being poor. I mind being blasted and poisoned. - There ARE no jobs on a dead planet." Judy Bonds *



"Mr. Speaker, we make war with such certainty, yet we are befuddled how to create peace. This paradox requires reflection if we are to survive. Making and endorsing war requires a secret love of death, and a fearful desire to embrace annihilation. Creating peace requires compassion, putting ourselves in the other person's place, and all of their suffering and all of their hopes and to act from our heart's capacity to love, not fear." Dennis Kucinich *



"Dr. King didn't get famous giving a speech that said,"I have a complaint." It's time for us to start dreaming again and invite the country to dream with us. We don't* have any "throw away" species, nations, or children. We must birth a global green economy strong enough to lift people out of poverty." Van Jones







"It is also in the interests of a tyrant to keep his people poor, so that they may not be able to afford the cost of protecting themselves by arms and be so occupied with their daily tasks that they have no time for rebellion."- Aristotle in Politics, J. Sinclair translation, pg. 226, 1962 *



"...it is a government by the corporations, for the corporations."--Rutherford B. Hayes 19th President of the USA. *



"Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility.''-Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary *



"Of all forms of tyranny the least attractive and the most vulgar is the tyranny of mere wealth, the tyranny of plutocracy" ---John Pierpont Morgan *



But that's the whole point of corporatism: to try and remove the public from making decisions over their own fate, to limit the public arena, to control opinion, to make sure that the fundamental decisions that determine how the world is going to be run -which include production, commerce, distribution, thought, social policy, foreign policy, everything-are not in the hands of the public, but rather in the hands of highly concentrated private power. In effect, tyranny unaccountable to the public.- Professor Noam Chomsky, interviewed in Corporate Watch *



"Can it be believed that the democracy which overthrew the feudal system and vanquished kings will retreat before tradesmen and capitalists?"* Alexis de Tocqueville 1805-1859 *





"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires" - -- Susan B Anthony.



"The good we secure for ourselves is precarious and uncertain until it is secured for all of us and incorporated into our common life".-- Jane Addams *



"The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?" - -- John Adams *





"Even the sceptical mind must be prepared to accept the unacceptable when there is no alternative. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidae on our hands" - -- Douglas Adams *



"Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea." --- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy *




We are not a human being’s having a spiritual experience, We are spiritual being’s having a human experience. *
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 06:18 AM   #3
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IC is a spiderbot that dumps random links and cut and pastes onto DTT





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Old November 22nd, 2009, 07:06 AM   #4
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IC is an anarchist, anti-war warrior and leader in the war against war...a supporter of the lyrics of the song Imagine. In short he's a nice guy that dreams of everyone being as miserable as he is.
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 08:24 AM   #5
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IC is an anarchist, anti-war warrior and leader in the war against war...a supporter of the lyrics of the song Imagine. In short he's a nice guy that dreams of everyone being as miserable as he is.




Why thank you Zack, I knew you loved me! Since it's Sunday let the Lord, Mark Twain & I in unison help you beat the war drum! define:in unison - Google Search



"Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth into battle -- be Thou near them! With them -- in spirit -- we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it --



For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimmage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!



We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.




(After a pause.) "Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits."



It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.




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This is how the whole scheme of things works.

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and bad things are very easy to get.~ Morarji Desai


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Old November 22nd, 2009, 09:25 AM   #6
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I will confirm that IC is not a bot.
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 09:31 AM   #7
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I will confirm that IC is not a bot.


Damn it onthefence, I had fxashun fooled!
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 10:12 AM   #8
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It is easy to hate and it is difficult to love.

This is how the whole scheme of things works.

All good things are difficult to achieve;

and bad things are very easy to get.~ Morarji Desai




How do you talk to the Jews or the people who loved those killed by the Japs at Pearl Harbor? How about the people on the airplanes, in the twin towers or the Pentagon about this reality? It's easier to war than to roll over on your back and offer flowers and your virgins to the evil that will kick aside your offered love.
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 10:38 AM   #9
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I'm not against anyone who is anti-war so long as they realize that there is always a time and place to defend yourself (WWII would be a good example). My father-in-law, a Marine lifer (3 years in WWII, 2 tours of Korea and 3 tours of Vietnam) has said that every war since WWII (and I'm not sure about Korea) was an ill-advised one, including Grenada and Panama.
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I can see that IC brings a lot of interesting topics onboard.
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