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Old September 4th, 2017, 06:05 AM   #61
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Aside from checking in, this is my first post and I don't mean to step on anyone's feet, but I do have some thoughts on this.

Until a couple of weeks ago I did not know what a white nationalist was. I already knew I did not agree with the Ku Klux Klan nor the Neo-nazis on their solutions.

I do, however, see a major problem. The white people have legitimate issues that should be addressed. While I disagree with the leadership and the methods they've chosen to use, I do think they have every Right to express their views.
So, feel free to describe some of those issues you think exist and should be addressed as legitimate concerns to white people.
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Is this an example of your lack of political engagement?
Interestingly you refuse to acknowledge that she indeed called them "super predators".
Very interesting.
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Old September 4th, 2017, 08:09 AM   #63
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Interestingly you refuse to acknowledge that she indeed called them "super predators".
Very interesting.
Uh, that was a question being asked of you.
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So, feel free to describe some of those issues you think exist and should be addressed as legitimate concerns to white people.
No one stopping you, go ahead.
You post on another liberal board as well, so my reluctance is based upon the fact that they banned me for two days for answering this same question for Madeline. It is NOT, as they claimed, discriminatory, but accurate and honest.


Many white people hold a view about America that is historically accurate, but not popular. The founding fathers intended to create a homeland for the white people. To this end, the Preamble of the United States Constitution states:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The posterity, as defined by the United States Supreme Court meant the white people according to the Dredd Scott v. Sanford decision. When Supreme Court Chief Justice Roger Taney delivered the decision, it was based upon the law, not Taney's personal preferences. According to Wikipedia:

"Taney spent pages 407–421 of his decision chronicling the history of slave and negro law in the British colonies and American states to decide if federal law could recognize Scott as a citizen of any state within the meaning of Article III."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

Eleven years later the Republican Party illegally ratified the 14th Amendment:

The Fourteenth Amendment is Unconstitutional - Judge L.H. Perez

David Lawrence: There is No "Fourteenth Amendment"!

THE UNCONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE 14th AMENDMENT

Since the adoption of the 14th Amendment there has been a steady and increasing effort to commit genocide against the posterity of the founding fathers, aka the white race.

The whites who gave us the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, and the Constitution were whites and our laws are based upon Anglo Saxon law and biblical principles. And so the war began with attacking Christian symbols like nativity scenes and Ten Commandments displays. The next round of attacks came with imposing secular humanism in the public schools by attacking prayer in the public school and saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

With that out of the way, the people that hate, loathe and despise whites turned their attention to destroying the family. Divorce laws were liberalized, gay rights became a hot topic, and the government began attacking churches that resisted racial integration (i.e. on campus inter-racial dating and inter-racial marriage.)

We went from that to integrating public schools and locking whites out of the job market. So, we went through the process of busing, then preferential hiring schemes / racial quotas / affirmative action / reverse discrimination (later declared unconstitutional.)

Having attacked and destroyed much of our culture, those committing the slow and subtle forms of genocide attacked the Confederate flag. And, while they did that, they kept up the culture war. America was deliberately flooded with immigrants (both legal and illegal.) The medical community deliberately got large segments of Americans hooked on their legal drugs. You may claim conspiracy theory all day long, but I prefer the facts:

ALL mass murderers are either political jihadists OR killers on a schedule of drugs called SSRIs. Approximately 13 percent of Americans are on SSRIs (drugs given for depression / anxiety.)

https://www.madinamerica.com/2015/11...early-doubles/

The average mass murderer is a white male 17 to 34 years in age and on SSRIs. I'm sorry, but I do not chalk this up to coincidence. Either there is a move to deliberately destroy whites via psychotropic drugs OR a higher percentage of whites are feeling anxious / depressed over very REAL conditions in their lives. Since the prescribing of anti-depressants is the FIRST option doctors use instead of the LAST option, I have my own suspicions. After all those in the mental health field are, almost to a man (or woman) practicing liberals.

Being on doctor prescribed psychotropic drugs, the youth tend to get involved in crime. And so, we have over 7 MILLION people in prisons and jails with at least 14 MILLION more out there with a criminal record and consequently locked out of the system.

Then those dispossessed watch as the current acts of genocide take place along with the assaults on their culture. The left removed their statues, monuments, and memorials on the pretext of some people being offended by symbols of the Confederacy. What a crock! One of the monuments taken down was of Roger Taney, the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court that delivered the ruling in the Dred Scott v Sanford case. Taney delivered his ruling FOUR YEARS before the Civil War began. So, that tells me the liberals are offended by something deeper than flags, monuments, etc.

So, I return to see more assaults against the whites. There are plans not only to take away the aforementioned Rights, but they are working to take the faces of white people off our currency and replace it with black people. We all know that the white based organizations were booted off the Internet, shutting down their sites and now YouTube is enlisting the ADL to help get white rights opinions and commentary off that site.

Perhaps there is a lot of anxiety and depression amongst the white community because they see they and their culture are no longer welcome. The other races have the NAACP, JDL, ADL, SPLC, CAIR, etc., etc. ad infinitum and all the whites have are groups like the Nazis, KKK and so - called white nationalists. They have no real power; no organization; NO representation. They are being locked out of society and the majority thinking they have the right to FORCE people to accept liberalism. So, currently, not having that needed organization, many white youths have aligned themselves with the hard core right and are willing to use violence to stop the aggression aimed at them.

Unlike the left, when you don't have any power, the other side can discriminate against you all day long and then apply different lines of logic to justify the pretext. For example, a baker refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple. He's a private business; he should not have to serve any given customer. By contrast, Stormfront is booted off the Internet on the pretext that they violated the terms of a contract... an adhesion contract at that AND one that attempted to discriminate against whatever values Stormfront was advocating.

Based on different convoluted legal shenanigans, both the baker and the racist organization were denied their guarantee of equal protection of the laws. Not only was the 14th Amendment illegally ratified, it is not interpreted in a manner to guarantee whites equal protection. They supposedly have no rights outside the power of the majority.

I could go on and on, but you just better hope that no white group comes along and can organize within the unequal parameters set by the powers that be. The KKK, Nazis, white nationalists pose no threat to America and are being used to advance liberalism... after all those guys lost the battles on things like integrated schools, the Confederate flag, and monuments / statues / memorials. So, they don't understand strategies. The genocide continues on.


ADDENDUM: Since the statue of Roger Taney came down, the next symbol relative to all this will be the American flag... it flew over the White House when the Dred Scott decision was handed down. After that, the only symbol I can see remaining are the whites themselves.
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Hey IT. Can we just get rid of this White Supremacist looking for a home since Stormfront got closed now and spare ourselves a lot of grief?
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... whatever values Stormfront was advocating.
how disingenuous

the 'whatever values' they were advocating was the marginalization and discrimination against various minority groups of legal citizens.

it's not "whatever values" - it's evil, insidious, vile and repugnant bigotry, racism, antiSemitism, homophobia, Islamaphobia, and mysogyny. It's spelled out quite clearly.

to state "whatever values" - as if they're of no importance and petty grievances - is disingenuous AT BEST.
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Old September 4th, 2017, 11:07 AM   #67
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You post on another liberal board as well, so my reluctance is based upon the fact that they banned me for two days for answering this same question for Madeline. It is NOT, as they claimed, discriminatory, but accurate and honest.


Many white people hold a view about America that is historically accurate, but not popular. The founding fathers intended to create a homeland for the white people. To this end, the Preamble of the United States Constitution states:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The posterity, as defined by the United States Supreme Court meant the white people according to the Dredd Scott v. Sanford decision. When Supreme Court Chief Justice Roger Taney delivered the decision, it was based upon the law, not Taney's personal preferences. According to Wikipedia:

"Taney spent pages 407–421 of his decision chronicling the history of slave and negro law in the British colonies and American states to decide if federal law could recognize Scott as a citizen of any state within the meaning of Article III."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

Eleven years later the Republican Party illegally ratified the 14th Amendment:

The Fourteenth Amendment is Unconstitutional - Judge L.H. Perez

David Lawrence: There is No "Fourteenth Amendment"!

THE UNCONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE 14th AMENDMENT

Since the adoption of the 14th Amendment there has been a steady and increasing effort to commit genocide against the posterity of the founding fathers, aka the white race.

The whites who gave us the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, and the Constitution were whites and our laws are based upon Anglo Saxon law and biblical principles. And so the war began with attacking Christian symbols like nativity scenes and Ten Commandments displays. The next round of attacks came with imposing secular humanism in the public schools by attacking prayer in the public school and saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

With that out of the way, the people that hate, loathe and despise whites turned their attention to destroying the family. Divorce laws were liberalized, gay rights became a hot topic, and the government began attacking churches that resisted racial integration (i.e. on campus inter-racial dating and inter-racial marriage.)

We went from that to integrating public schools and locking whites out of the job market. So, we went through the process of busing, then preferential hiring schemes / racial quotas / affirmative action / reverse discrimination (later declared unconstitutional.)

Having attacked and destroyed much of our culture, those committing the slow and subtle forms of genocide attacked the Confederate flag. And, while they did that, they kept up the culture war. America was deliberately flooded with immigrants (both legal and illegal.) The medical community deliberately got large segments of Americans hooked on their legal drugs. You may claim conspiracy theory all day long, but I prefer the facts:

ALL mass murderers are either political jihadists OR killers on a schedule of drugs called SSRIs. Approximately 13 percent of Americans are on SSRIs (drugs given for depression / anxiety.)

https://www.madinamerica.com/2015/11...early-doubles/

The average mass murderer is a white male 17 to 34 years in age and on SSRIs. I'm sorry, but I do not chalk this up to coincidence. Either there is a move to deliberately destroy whites via psychotropic drugs OR a higher percentage of whites are feeling anxious / depressed over very REAL conditions in their lives. Since the prescribing of anti-depressants is the FIRST option doctors use instead of the LAST option, I have my own suspicions. After all those in the mental health field are, almost to a man (or woman) practicing liberals.

Being on doctor prescribed psychotropic drugs, the youth tend to get involved in crime. And so, we have over 7 MILLION people in prisons and jails with at least 14 MILLION more out there with a criminal record and consequently locked out of the system.

Then those dispossessed watch as the current acts of genocide take place along with the assaults on their culture. The left removed their statues, monuments, and memorials on the pretext of some people being offended by symbols of the Confederacy. What a crock! One of the monuments taken down was of Roger Taney, the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court that delivered the ruling in the Dred Scott v Sanford case. Taney delivered his ruling FOUR YEARS before the Civil War began. So, that tells me the liberals are offended by something deeper than flags, monuments, etc.

So, I return to see more assaults against the whites. There are plans not only to take away the aforementioned Rights, but they are working to take the faces of white people off our currency and replace it with black people. We all know that the white based organizations were booted off the Internet, shutting down their sites and now YouTube is enlisting the ADL to help get white rights opinions and commentary off that site.

Perhaps there is a lot of anxiety and depression amongst the white community because they see they and their culture are no longer welcome. The other races have the NAACP, JDL, ADL, SPLC, CAIR, etc., etc. ad infinitum and all the whites have are groups like the Nazis, KKK and so - called white nationalists. They have no real power; no organization; NO representation. They are being locked out of society and the majority thinking they have the right to FORCE people to accept liberalism. So, currently, not having that needed organization, many white youths have aligned themselves with the hard core right and are willing to use violence to stop the aggression aimed at them.

Unlike the left, when you don't have any power, the other side can discriminate against you all day long and then apply different lines of logic to justify the pretext. For example, a baker refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple. He's a private business; he should not have to serve any given customer. By contrast, Stormfront is booted off the Internet on the pretext that they violated the terms of a contract... an adhesion contract at that AND one that attempted to discriminate against whatever values Stormfront was advocating.

Based on different convoluted legal shenanigans, both the baker and the racist organization were denied their guarantee of equal protection of the laws. Not only was the 14th Amendment illegally ratified, it is not interpreted in a manner to guarantee whites equal protection. They supposedly have no rights outside the power of the majority.

I could go on and on, but you just better hope that no white group comes along and can organize within the unequal parameters set by the powers that be. The KKK, Nazis, white nationalists pose no threat to America and are being used to advance liberalism... after all those guys lost the battles on things like integrated schools, the Confederate flag, and monuments / statues / memorials. So, they don't understand strategies. The genocide continues on.


ADDENDUM: Since the statue of Roger Taney came down, the next symbol relative to all this will be the American flag... it flew over the White House when the Dred Scott decision was handed down. After that, the only symbol I can see remaining are the whites themselves.
You put your location in Georgia but Georgia is the largest State east of the Mississippi River. Did you swim the Ocmulgee in flood stage? What is fat lighter? Please add where you hang your hat in Georgia because I love that state and where I made my fortune.

edit: how tall is a Georgia Pine

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how disingenuous

the 'whatever values' they were advocating was the marginalization and discrimination against various minority groups of legal citizens.

it's not "whatever values" - it's evil, insidious, vile and repugnant bigotry, racism, homophobia, Islamaphobia, and mysogyny. It's spelled out quite clearly.

to state "whatever values" - as if they're of no importance and petty grievances - is disingenuous AT BEST.
The counter-argument that I'm making is that the left is not only attacking white supremacist groups, but whites in general. So, it leaves the whites no where to turn. You just witnessed the usual swill when another poster called me names, knowingly made false allegations, and urged censorship against me. I've never even been to Stormfront, much less been a member. But, because I see the left using the same, identical methods you accuse racists of, that gives the radical left a pretext to attack me.

It is not for me to approve of the values of others... left or right. NOR should it be for those who use the power of the majority (mob rule) to censor an unbiased observation. You see, I have First Amendment Rights to the extent that I agree with those in control. When that doesn't happen, the conversation goes south; those without facts or a legitimate argument resort to name calling - and then the censorship begins. Can you not understand how it ends up in violence?

Marginalizing the whites is no more defensible than the KKK or nazis marginalizing the blacks. Two wrongs don't make a right. And, if we cannot sit down and have a civil discussion without name calling and censorship, what other options are on the table?
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You put your location in Georgia but Georgia is the largest State east of the Mississippi River. Did you swim the Ocmulgee in flood stage? What is fat lighter? Please add where you hang your hat in Georgia because I love that state and where I made my fortune.

edit: how tall is a Georgia Pine
What does any of that have to do with this thread?
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whites are marginalized?

in America?

are you on drugs?
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