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View Poll Results: Is a "Free Market" System Sensible?
Yes 9 52.94%
No 6 35.29%
Other 2 11.76%
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Old December 31st, 2017, 04:07 PM   #71
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Oh, snap.

Who are these cronies you speak of?

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Old December 31st, 2017, 04:08 PM   #72
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This is going to turn into a rant about road signs, and fire departments and police departments. I can smell it a mile away.
You never know. Anything is better than the mundane Keynesianism that gets regurgitated by the fantastic four.
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Old December 31st, 2017, 04:10 PM   #73
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You never know. Anything is better than the mundane Keynesianism that gets regurgitated by the fantastic four.

Keynes will make an appearance to. You can also assume, that the Nordic nations will to. I do got to say, its nice to see a different wind up though. Same ole pitch though
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Please look this up on Google (as I would much prefer not to write a short essay on a topic that is simple to research independently and arrive at an adequate answer).

However, if you prove to have great difficulty with this task, than I will respond (and likely provided sources of some nature to explore it further)
Give up. According to the demented right, Venezuela is the idealized example of socialism. In other threads they rant about how evil and socialistic the Scandinavian countries and in fact most of Europe is. But if you challenge them about standards of living, happiness indexes, average age spans and on and on they will say that "well, they aren't really socialist, but Venezuela is".

I have wasted thousands of keystrokes trying to explain that North Korea and Venezuela are not the result of socialism, they are the result of batshit crazy, stupid mindfucked dictators.

Muh Russia will be next.
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In my experience there is only two kinds of people who suggest such nonsense as you....
I am rather patiently going out of my way to explain to you (at length) extremely basic political/economic matters on a debate forum centered around politics, and you have the gall to address me in this manner?

One of the largest issues I find in attempting to discuss such matters with people such as you, is that uneducated people that lack real intellectual training, nor challenges in a highly competitive arena do not know how to engage and abide by the rules of civil discourse . History, politics, ect. ect. are very worthy areas of study, research, debate, ect. however there is a problem with the lack of objective truths that are found in STEM. I'm finishing a triple major in Math/Physics/History at University this school year, and I can tell you this dynamic is clearly observable in the difference between STEM courses and the humanities/social sciences (not that the Humanities aren't extremely valuable--they are. Rather, it lacks the direct confrontation with reality that STEM demands, thus people think they can simply run away with their bullsh't, ignorant nonsense, as you and a couple others have done here (although by no means everyone on this thread--I'm speaking to you, justoneman, Sabcat, ..)). If you entered any STEM area with your current attitude, reality would immediately smack you in the face hard as f'ck--as the same bullsh't practices/attitudes will not fly in such an arena..

Now, are you genuinely interested in exchanging ideas, reasoned, evidence based disputation? Or, do you intend on maintaining your current course (in which case we can bring this discussion between us to an end)?
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Give up. According to the demented right, Venezuela is the idealized example of socialism. In other threads they rant about how evil and socialistic the Scandinavian countries and in fact most of Europe is. But if you challenge them about standards of living, happiness indexes, average age spans and on and on they will say that "well, they aren't really socialist, but Venezuela is".

I have wasted thousands of keystrokes trying to explain that North Korea and Venezuela are not the result of socialism, they are the result of batshit crazy, stupid mindfucked dictators.

Muh Russia will be next.
Little rich kids that never worked a day in their lives. Notice how their messaging is almost word for word exact? It's like they're clones.
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Old December 31st, 2017, 05:34 PM   #77
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I am rather patiently going out of my way to explain to you (at length) extremely basic political/economic matters on a debate forum centered around politics, and you have the gall to address me in this manner?

One of the largest issues I find in attempting to discuss such matters with people such as you, is that uneducated people that lack real intellectual training, nor challenges in a highly competitive arena do not know how to engage and abide by the rules of civil discourse . History, politics, ect. ect. are very worthy areas of study, research, debate, ect. however there is a problem with the lack of objective truths that are found in STEM. I'm finishing a triple major in Math/Physics/History at University this school year, and I can tell you this dynamic is clearly observable in the difference between STEM courses and the humanities/social sciences (not that the Humanities aren't extremely valuable--they are. Rather, it lacks the direct confrontation with reality that STEM demands, thus people think they can simply run away with their bullsh't, ignorant nonsense, as you and a couple others have done here (although by no means everyone on this thread--I'm speaking to you, justoneman, Sabcat, ..)). If you entered any STEM area with your current attitude, reality would immediately smack you in the face hard as f'ck--as the same bullsh't practices/attitudes will not fly in such an arena..

Now, are you genuinely interested in exchanging ideas, reasoned, evidence based disputation? Or, do you intend on maintaining your current course (in which case we can bring this discussion between us to an end)?

I enjoy how you included me in here yet your only response to my post was that you disagreed w/ my use of the term fascism.

Carry on.
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Little rich kids that never worked a day in their lives. Notice how their messaging is almost word for word exact? It's like they're clones.
Rich kid. You gotta be kidding me. I started working at 14 and was covering rent and food by 16, goofball.
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I am rather patiently going out of my way to explain to you (at length) extremely basic political/economic matters on a debate forum centered around politics, and you have the gall to address me in this manner?
No, you are not going out of your way to do anything. Furthermore no one is forcing you to do anything. Also,you are being a bigot. You are making assumptions about whom you are addressing without any knowledge of who they are. You have failed to address anything I have said but instead decided to define me, then attack me. In short, you are using the elitist eye roll argument by grandstanding about how educated you are.
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One of the largest issues I find in attempting to discuss such matters with people such as you, is that uneducated people that lack real intellectual training, nor challenges in a highly competitive arena do not know how to engage and abide by the rules of civil discourse .
That is the part about you making assumptions that you know nothing of.
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History, politics, ect. ect. are very worthy areas of study, research, debate, ect. however there is a problem with the lack of objective truths that are found in STEM. I'm finishing a triple major in Math/Physics/History at University this school year, and I can tell you this dynamic is clearly observable in the difference between STEM courses and the humanities/social sciences (not that the Humanities aren't extremely valuable--they are.
This is the part where you pump your self up and demand that you are correct on all matters.
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Rather, it lacks the direct confrontation with reality that STEM demands, thus people think they can simply run away with their bullsh't, ignorant nonsense, as you and a couple others have done here (although by no means everyone on this thread--I'm speaking to you, justoneman, Sabcat, ..)).
Keep pumping yourself up. Still waiting for you to actually address what I had to say in regards to the subject.
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If you entered any STEM area with your current attitude, reality would immediately smack you in the face hard as f'ck--as the same bullsh't practices/attitudes will not fly in such an arena..
Are you done? Do you feel better? How often does that cute little elitist eye roll dismissive speech work in a debate? Oh, wait I bet you think it works all the time. I thought the stereotyping method you used was rather boorish and overplayed. For someone who holds themselves of such high standards, I would have thought you would have at least addressed what I said.

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Now, are you genuinely interested in exchanging ideas, reasoned, evidence based disputation? Or, do you intend on maintaining your current course (in which case we can bring this discussion between us to an end)?
I have not made up my mind if I should grant you that privilege or not. After your bigoted personal attack and assumptions I have much to weigh on rather or not you are worthy of such a honor to address me on subjects. So far you have demonstrated that you are not capable or willing and have instead chose to use a stereotype form of debate devoid of any mention of the subject at hand. For now you are excused to debate with someone else. I will let you know if you may expect me to reply to you or not.
Good day
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Old December 31st, 2017, 07:26 PM   #80
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No, you are not going out of your way to do anything. Furthermore no one is forcing you to do anything. Also,you are being a bigot. You are making assumptions about whom you are addressing without any knowledge of who they are. You have failed to address anything I have said but instead decided to define me, then attack me. In short, you are using the elitist eye roll argument by grandstanding about how educated you are.

That is the part about you making assumptions that you know nothing of. This is the part where you pump your self up and demand that you are correct on all matters. Keep pumping yourself up. Still waiting for you to actually address what I had to say in regards to the subject.
Are you done? Do you feel better? How often does that cute little elitist eye roll dismissive speech work in a debate? Oh, wait I bet you think it works all the time. I thought the stereotyping method you used was rather boorish and overplayed. For someone who holds themselves of such high standards, I would have thought you would have at least addressed what I said.

I have not made up my mind if I should grant you that privilege or not. After your bigoted personal attack and assumptions I have much to weigh on rather or not you are worthy of such a honor to address me on subjects. So far you have demonstrated that you are not capable or willing and have instead chose to use a stereotype form of debate devoid of any mention of the subject at hand. For now you are excused to debate with someone else. I will let you know if you may expect me to reply to you or not.
Good day


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