Originally Posted by imaginethat

Great. You are incapable of seeing degrees. You establish a phony litmus test: Either a person is 100 percent against federal laws and regulations, or, the person is a hypocrite.

It's unbelievable that you and your kin have managed to complete your education, held down jobs, married, had children, and still you see the world through black and white glasses. In other words, you don't see the world as it is, a complex interplay of various forces that requires observation and analysis to pick the best way to go forward. Figuring the best way forward takes work.

Nope, in Sabcat's world it's federal laws and regulations bad, always, 100 percent of the time, and any other opinion is hypocritical heresy.

With this attitude bro, you render all your opinions on governance childish at best. Some issues are best handled at the local level, like school boards, some at the state level, like the legality of cannabis, and some at the national level such as the protection of our unalienable, our Ninth and Tenth Amendment rights.

This is reality Sabcat. On a planet inhabited by men and women fully committed to the principle of "Love your neighbor as you love yourself," just about any form of government would work, from democracy to republican to communism, as would no government at all: anarchy.

Presently, human beings are primarily driven on a collective level by fear and greed, on a good day. At this stage of human evolution, government is a necessary evil. It deals with the dark side of human nature.

Calling support of some applications of government while calling opposition to others "hypocrisy" reveals a mind yet to mature, and a refusal to deal with reality as it is.

Originally Posted by goober

We live in a place called reality, ever been there?
I like that there are people who check to make sure there isn't lead in the drinking water, or mercury in the air.
And goons don't kick in my doors, or anyone else's, unless that anyone has robbed a bank or raped or murdered someone.
And I like the fact that the people who rob banks, steal cars or drive drunk, get arrested and imprisoned.

You set up these borderline absolute scenarios which quite frankly don't happen, except extremely rarely, and even then it's by mistake.

It's all about the user experience, what's behind the curtain doesn't affect anyone. My experience has been that the police are my friends, that things pretty much work as advertised.

And growing pot is legal, up to six plants per adult, with a maximum of 12 per household.
And the feds don't kick in my door and throw me in a cell, because there is a balance in the way things work, and if they did that, there would be repercussions, so they don't.

And July 1, there'll be Cannabis Cafes open for business, where an adult can purchase and consume pot, right off the menu.

That's the way it is, for real, right now.
So when you talk about goons kicking in doors, and tossing innocents in prison, it's not real.
If it was, I'd feel different, but it's not real.

Originally Posted by imaginethat

Great. You are incapable of seeing degrees. You establish a phony litmus test: Either a person is 100 percent against federal laws and regulations, or, the person is a hypocrite.

It's unbelievable that you and your kin have managed to complete your education, held down jobs, married, had children, and still you see the world through black and white glasses. In other words, you don't see the world as it is, a complex interplay of various forces that requires observation and analysis to pick the best way to go forward. Figuring the best way forward takes work.

Nope, in Sabcat's world it's federal laws and regulations bad, always, 100 percent of the time, and any other opinion is hypocritical heresy.

With this attitude bro, you render all your opinions on governance childish at best. Some issues are best handled at the local level, like school boards, some at the state level, like the legality of cannabis, and some at the national level such as the protection of our unalienable, our Ninth and Tenth Amendment rights.

This is reality Sabcat. On a planet inhabited by men and women fully committed to the principle of "Love your neighbor as you love yourself," just about any form of government would work, from democracy to republican to communism, as would no government at all: anarchy.

Presently, human beings are primarily driven on a collective level by fear and greed, on a good day. At this stage of human evolution, government is a necessary evil. It deals with the dark side of human nature.

Calling support of some applications of government while calling opposition to others "hypocrisy" reveals a mind yet to mature, and a refusal to deal with reality as it is.

Originally Posted by imaginethat

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Sabcat

No, as always you are missing the point but then again stereotypes are there for a reason and pot heads definitely have a few. Paying attention is not one of them. I am talking about federal laws not all government. Then again you are just clouding the argument so it better suits your narrative.....

Originally Posted by Sabcat

No, as always you are missing the point but then again stereotypes are there for a reason and pot heads definitely have a few. Paying attention is not one of them. I am talking about federal laws not all government. Then again you are just clouding the argument so it better suits your narrative.

Until the federal laws are taken off of the books you will be criminals no matter what your state does. Throw your bong on the ground and scream about it all you want that is the fact of the matter. That is the point i am trying to drive home. Your lord of the drones dropped the ball on that one. He could have moved to make that happen but did not.

Degrees. Hilarious. Nice try Cheech. You authoritarians support the federal government when it suits you and support nullification the very same. That is hypocritical. I know how much you love posts w/ the dictionary definitions posted, so i will leave that up to you if you are still unsure about that word.

Lets say Texas makes it illegal to get an abortion for any reason tomorrow, how do you thing you and the rest of the hyoer sensitive left will react?

Hypocrites.


Lets make this clear. I do not agree w/ the federal laws or hope that they send men in costums or bounty hunters to your house to toss you into a cage. Simply that they can.


Tell me again, what banks does the current pot industry use for their deposits?

Originally Posted by Sabcat

He is stoned too.

Some people never grow up.

Originally Posted by imaginethat

Yes degrees.

You are so bloody predictable. How will I feel if Texas outlaws abortion? Well, I can't speak for the hypersensitive left, but as far as I'm concerned let them have at it. If TNV is successful in his anti-cannabis/reefer madness campaign, and Tennessee passes a law mandating beheading for first offense marihuana possession, let them have at it.

I firmly believe in the "50 laboratories" way of looking at states' rights. Sorry if I don't fit your prejudices. I don't use a bong either.

I smoked my first joint in '66 I think, 51 years ago. For ALL of that time, cannabis was illegal according to federal law, and until 2013 it was illegal in my state. And all that time, the Law could have thrown my ass in jail. So what the hell news do you thing you're sharing here? Yes, yes, I see the dig at the drone master. He couldn't move to legalize cannabis. I know y0u support a man who thinks he's dictator and can do anything he wants, but he can't and Obama couldn't legalize cannabis. He did the next best thing.

He let the states decide while he called off the mad dogs. And states have chosen different methods of legalization. I think Colorado did it right by amending our constitution and making cannabis consumption and commerce a citizen's constitutional right.

So in closing, stuff your flaming insults. You've been had in this exchange. Yes, you're forgiven. Get up and dust off your knees, pumpkin.