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Old January 6th, 2018, 01:51 PM   #51
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The main reason is that it's what most people want.
That justifies it right there .

Here, it was on the ballot, and it passed 54% TO 46%.
So now it's the law, there's a commission, setting up the regulations, and we go full recreational retail on July 1.
Yay for Mass. The stupid dumb fucks in Ohio did not pass it and I have to go to the criminal underground to buy it.

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Old January 6th, 2018, 02:10 PM   #52
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Great. Please extended that way of thinking to tbe rest of the alphabet agencies as you do just the DEA. Returning to states rights is the best path for personal liberties to be realized once again. This will recreate a more unified nation of more productive and happy citizens.
Agreed. I've been a Ninth and Tenth Amendment fan for quite a while.

However you must admit that DEA and ATF agents are mad dogs.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 02:11 PM   #53
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Bullshit. There was no straw at all. That point was very valid. Sorry, but attempting to subjugate the lefts lack of principles about an issue that is entwined with states rights is valid and to the core of the discussion.

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Old January 6th, 2018, 02:14 PM   #54
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No, the litmus test that you talk about is rather or not it advances narratives on the political talking point that is within a given political parties platform. I always thought that you would at least be above the collective. I guess not. You try to take the high ground when its convenient and change the rules when you agree with something. When you do not, then that is different and that rule should apply. That rule being what you are against when it applies to you.
Horseshit, you're just setting up another litmus test.

I don't owe allegiance to any party. I take the high ground regardless of party or political philosophies.

The rest of your post is word salad. Sorry, but it is.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 02:15 PM   #55
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What are the reasons why marijuana should be legalized? So far, I've heard nothing that justifies the support of cannabis. If we take a look at other countries that have legalizes it, what have been the ramifications?
Evidently you haven't been paying any attention. Everything you ask for has been discussed on DTT numerous times.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 02:18 PM   #56
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I prefer asking why should anything, including marijuana, be outlawed in any way? There is no victim (as in a different party, not the person who freely, willingly chooses to inhale something into their own lungs, etc.), and if there's no victim I see no valid reason for making something like that illegal. The state should not be making it their business to get in people's personal lives; it should only exist and intervene in anything when there's a victim (and by "victim", I mean someone who is on the receiving end of being very specifically or directly harmed in some way, such as being murdered, raped, having their property stolen or destroyed, being injured, etc.), or contract dispute brought to them by at least one party involved in a contract; I don't have a problem with fair, reasonable, and simple taxation policies, funding a military for defending the nation, or "muh roads". I don't like having the state sticking its nose into my personal business or anyone else's personal business when there is no victim, and that's exactly what I think the state is doing when they impose a law banning marijuana.

Personally, I don't do anything with marijuana or any other type of recreational substance, other than alcoholic drinks (and I only drink occasionally). I don't even smoke tobacco. I don't even like the idea of inhaling such recreational substances into my lungs in general, probably because as a child I had asthma and breathing problems, and as a result the idea of voluntarily inhaling smoke just seems unappealing to me. Not only do I not use any recreational substances other than alcohol sometimes, I don't even like the idea of taking an aspirin. I drink caffeinated sodas and coffee, I don't mind eating "junk" foods and desserts, and that (and some alcohol) is the extent of how bad my diet/health/nutritional habits are.

So my point is not that I don't have a dog in this fight, but that it isn't me wanting to smoke a doobie. The dog I do have in this fight is a matter of principle to do with our rights and what the government should or shouldn't be able to ban - and maybe also this dawg:

Edibles are imo the best method of consumption.

And I agree with your points, although I believe leaving legalization or lack thereof to the states.
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Agreed. I've been a Ninth and Tenth Amendment fan for quite a while.

However you must admit that DEA and ATF agents are mad dogs.


True, but that is only because they are on the front lines. They are all corrupt and terrifying beauracacies that operate outside the parameters of our system of law. I could go on and on about all of them. The information is out there and not just from fringe sources. The FDA is way at the top of the list. They operate under the guise of the interest of the people. Absolutely not. Or how about this one about homeland security



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The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6b rounds of ammo, so far to little notice. It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. As reported elsewhere, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, along with a frightening amount specialized for snipers. Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending less than 6 million rounds a month. Therefore 1.6 billion rounds would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years. In America.




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How about this

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We spend BILLIONS of dollars each year arresting, prosecuting and imprisoning people over a substance that is less lethal, less harmful, and has a lesser impact on society in general than ALCOHOL which is legal !!

I firmly believe the ONLY reason pot is still illegal is they can't figure out how to tax it !!
Within the city limits about 22 percent tax is levied on retail cannabis. Even so, some local dispensaries have specials where an ounce can be had for $100-125/oz. including tax.
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I think the most reasonable thing for the government to do with marijuana is "legalize" it (personally I don't see how or why the state is able to outlaw or ban it given that a constitutional amendment was needed to be able to outlaw or ban alcohol - why the inconsistency?) and "regulate" it in the same manner they do with alcohol and tobacco.
Why? The entire country was flipped out by blatant lies....



The lies were accepted. As Sessions says, good folks don't use mary-wa-na.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 02:47 PM   #60
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Why? The entire country was flipped out by blatant lies....



The lies were accepted. As Sessions says, good folks don't use mary-wa-na.
It looks to me that Sessions' kid must have been mainlining and the fool believed him when the kid said it was pot.
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