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View Poll Results: What makes us act the way we do?
Anonymity 4 44.44%
We are just like it in real life 2 22.22%
Other 3 33.33%
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Old January 27th, 2018, 10:04 AM   #21
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It's always weird when people living on the same planet, in the same country, have vastly differing views of the goings-on around them.

I have many rightist friends who for eight years absolutely started every conversation cursing the latest obamanation. In fact, most of them still do. Throw in Hillary remarks, and almost every conversation revolves around the damned communist liberals.

Maybe my rightist friends are more upfront than yours.
We just have to look back to the tea party. I think that Cons were very loud and clear.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 10:17 AM   #22
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One poster on this site who I respect has advocated that the extreme bias between right and left started with Newt Gingrich. I'm not so sure. Even Bush the younger got widespread approval till the full stupidity of the second Iraqi war sunk in.

IMO it was the vitriol against Obama for everything and anything. The blatant statement that the Republican's main goal was to make Obama a one term president and their near complete obstructionism caused a situation where the current backlash against the Republican President and the Republican Congress is the logical result.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 10:21 AM   #23
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Conservatives around you at your work etc. just kept quiet about Obama. If they talked about him it was quietly to someone they know. It is a very noticed dynamic.
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Not on my planet!!!

People were vicious about Obama - quite openly.

Maybe it's because I spent my days in the academic world, where opinions are very freely expressed.

This quiet civilized conservative is not one from my existence.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 10:22 AM   #24
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One poster on this site who I respect has advocated that the extreme bias between right and left started with Newt Gingrich. I'm not so sure. Even Bush the younger got widespread approval till the full stupidity of the second Iraqi war sunk in.

IMO it was the vitriol against Obama for everything and anything. The blatant statement that the Republican's main goal was to make Obama a one term president and their near complete obstructionism caused a situation where the current backlash against the Republican President and the Republican Congress is the logical result.
I totally agree.

I think the TOTAL AND COMPLETE line of demarcation was drawn and has not been erased since the day McConnell announced that he would not allow a vote on an Obama SCOTUS nomination for over a year.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 10:27 AM   #25
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One poster on this site who I respect has advocated that the extreme bias between right and left started with Newt Gingrich. I'm not so sure. Even Bush the younger got widespread approval till the full stupidity of the second Iraqi war sunk in.
As someone mentioned earlier, the nation was behind GW after 9/11. Once we realized the ramifications of the war, people went back to their corners and started blasting him. War is never pretty, and I think we overreacted. My first though on that horrible morning was "I hope we don't do something stupid".
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IMO it was the vitriol against Obama for everything and anything. The blatant statement that the Republican's main goal was to make Obama a one term president and their near complete obstructionism caused a situation where the current backlash against the Republican President and the Republican Congress is the logical result.
I think we should give them a chance, should have given Obama a chance as we should now give Trump a chance.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 10:29 AM   #26
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?!?!

Not on my planet!!!

People were vicious about Obama - quite openly.

Maybe it's because I spent my days in the academic world, where opinions are very freely expressed.

This quiet civilized conservative is not one from my existence.
Of course nowadays, academia is drowning out the opposition any chance they get?
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Old January 27th, 2018, 10:30 AM   #27
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One poster on this site who I respect has advocated that the extreme bias between right and left started with Newt Gingrich. I'm not so sure. Even Bush the younger got widespread approval till the full stupidity of the second Iraqi war sunk in.

IMO it was the vitriol against Obama for everything and anything. The blatant statement that the Republican's main goal was to make Obama a one term president and their near complete obstructionism caused a situation where the current backlash against the Republican President and the Republican Congress is the logical result.
I don't know? I tend to usually disagree about who had it worse. But, aside from pointing of fingers, it doesn't really matter to me anymore. A person has to be partly crazy to think they can lead this country effectively and with universal acclaim.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 10:34 AM   #28
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As someone mentioned earlier, the nation was behind GW after 9/11. Once we realized the ramifications of the war, people went back to their corners and started blasting him. War is never pretty, and I think we overreacted. My first though on that horrible morning was "I hope we don't do something stupid".

I think we should give them a chance, should have given Obama a chance as we should now give Trump a chance.
And yet every time I'm tempted, he goes and fires off another really low-life, vicious lying tweet.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 10:37 AM   #29
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?!?!

Not on my planet!!!

People were vicious about Obama - quite openly.

Maybe it's because I spent my days in the academic world, where opinions are very freely expressed.

This quiet civilized conservative is not one from my existence.
I bet what happens is what I experienced in the academic world. You have on the order of 85% liberals and they are very very vocal. They start all the shit and a few righties respond. Its how it always is.
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Old February 7th, 2018, 11:17 AM   #30
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Please know that I include myself in this. We enjoy what we know as political forum, a place where we can share ideas and opinions. Many have come and gone, some have been around for many years and are going strong.
They are run by people with different ideologies and political persuasions.
Some are strictly conservative, some are liberal, some seek to strike a balance. Many pride themselves as the place to discuss political issues passionately but respectfully, while others seem to be a free-for-all.
Those who encourage respectful debate are few, and it seems the moderators are quickly overwhelmed by number of members with little or no discipline.

My questions is as follows...
Do we interact with people IRL as we do behind the screen?
Is anonymity allowing for a certain protection that makes us more prone to sarcasm, insults, vulgarity?
Do we disassociate from the person on the other side of the screen because of anonymity?
Your thoughts are much appreciated. Thank you.
I come to forums with a sense of purpose and work at being the best communicator I can be. I think I have improved over years, but still, occasionally have a knee-jerk reaction to a post and if I post my knee-jerk reaction, I regret that, because that is not the kind of person I want to be.
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