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View Poll Results: What makes us act the way we do?
Anonymity 6 50.00%
We are just like it in real life 2 16.67%
Other 4 33.33%
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Old January 26th, 2018, 06:48 AM   #1
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What happened to us?

Please know that I include myself in this. We enjoy what we know as political forum, a place where we can share ideas and opinions. Many have come and gone, some have been around for many years and are going strong.
They are run by people with different ideologies and political persuasions.
Some are strictly conservative, some are liberal, some seek to strike a balance. Many pride themselves as the place to discuss political issues passionately but respectfully, while others seem to be a free-for-all.
Those who encourage respectful debate are few, and it seems the moderators are quickly overwhelmed by number of members with little or no discipline.

My questions is as follows...
Do we interact with people IRL as we do behind the screen?
Is anonymity allowing for a certain protection that makes us more prone to sarcasm, insults, vulgarity?
Do we disassociate from the person on the other side of the screen because of anonymity?
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Old January 26th, 2018, 07:30 AM   #2
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What you read in my posts is how i am. But in general, i think most people act as they do because of the anonymity of the internet. But this place in particular? I think everybody lays their cards out the table. Most of them represent themselves as they are in real life.

Still i went with the first choice. Most people on the internet are a$$holes behind the screen and angels to your face.
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Old January 26th, 2018, 07:33 AM   #3
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I am pretty much just as I am in real life.

I'm friendly and civil and polite - until I'm attacked (either personally, or inclusive a broad-stroke insult) - then I have no problem going ballistic.

I'm never ashamed of what I write online, which is why I'm not anonymous. Most of the people here who know me, know who I am. I use my real name - I'm not a coward. I stand behind what I write and say.

edited to add: I friendly and civil and polite - with one caveat - I do swear like a drunken sailor on leave
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Old January 26th, 2018, 07:39 AM   #4
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My answer is the same as Tristan, I love good discussion until attacked and them I am as rabid as a wolverine. Oh and I don't cuss like a sailor!
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Old January 26th, 2018, 08:08 AM   #5
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I am the same way.. I am nice until it is time to no longer to be nice.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 03:19 AM   #6
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I believe that there are a lot of people that are badly behaved because they have the anonymity of the internet.

As for me, I'm pretty much what you see here; well mannered and kind. Often insults are met with curiosity but when it's time to get harsh I prefer to "pull out my scalpel" and shred the offender with precision.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 03:53 AM   #7
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I believe that there are a lot of people that are badly behaved because they have the anonymity of the internet.

As for me, I'm pretty much what you see here; well mannered and kind. Often insults are met with curiosity but when it's time to get harsh I prefer to "pull out my scalpel" and shred the offender with precision.
Some people strike a good balance, some are just nasty. I call them web jockeys. The make jokes about others, they insult and disparage. May be they don't have the courage to speak up in real life, so they hide behind the screen playing tough guy.
It's been bugging me for a while. Seems to be getting worse, all that hating on each other just because. Sad.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 04:01 AM   #8
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Please know that I include myself in this. We enjoy what we know as political forum, a place where we can share ideas and opinions. Many have come and gone, some have been around for many years and are going strong.
They are run by people with different ideologies and political persuasions.
Some are strictly conservative, some are liberal, some seek to strike a balance. Many pride themselves as the place to discuss political issues passionately but respectfully, while others seem to be a free-for-all.
Those who encourage respectful debate are few, and it seems the moderators are quickly overwhelmed by number of members with little or no discipline.

My questions is as follows...
Do we interact with people IRL as we do behind the screen?
Is anonymity allowing for a certain protection that makes us more prone to sarcasm, insults, vulgarity?
Do we disassociate from the person on the other side of the screen because of anonymity?
Your thoughts are much appreciated. Thank you.

I'm going to start with some history and then I'll answer your questions. Some of us have been on this discussion site quite awhile. Because of our daily/weekly discussions, we get to know each other's opinions, personalities, intelligence level, quirks, politics, family, and religious/ nonreligious preferences pretty well....and as with ALL relationships--we connect with some who are like-minded and disassociate from others.
The insults, sarcasm, vulgarity begin when posters state opinion as fact and do so without sources OR USE biased sources based on rumor, speculation, generalization, and/or even conspiracy theories. In addition, we have members who make outrageous statements and, to be honest, are just unhinged.
Period. We have members who post when they are drunk, drugged and depressed. We have members who stay and many who GO--quickly. We have members who follow the rules and some who refuse. Imaginethat has QUITE the job keeping all of us in line. (Thanks, IT)

So, to answer your questions, yes. Anonymity does make sarcasm and insults easier, but I don't think we disassociate because of it. Most families have BIG disagreements. We argue, debate, disagree--we use sarcasm, "salty language", and yes--sometimes insults if the debate gets heated.
DTT (IMO) is a very large, dysfunctional family. Sometimes we get along and MANY MANY times we don't. There are people on this site who I'd love to have as neighbors--smart, funny, caring, BUT others....not so much.
But that's life.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 04:15 AM   #9
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I'm going to start with some history and then I'll answer your questions. Some of us have been on this discussion site quite awhile. Because of our daily/weekly discussions, we get to know each other's opinions, personalities, intelligence level, quirks, politics, family, and religious/ nonreligious preferences pretty well....and as with ALL relationships--we connect with some who are like-minded and disassociate from others.
The insults, sarcasm, vulgarity begin when posters state opinion as fact and do so without sources OR USE biased sources based on rumor, speculation, generalization, and/or even conspiracy theories. In addition, we have members who make outrageous statements and, to be honest, are just unhinged.
Period. We have members who post when they are drunk, drugged and depressed. We have members who stay and many who GO--quickly. We have members who follow the rules and some who refuse. Imaginethat has QUITE the job keeping all of us in line. (Thanks, IT)

So, to answer your questions, yes. Anonymity does make sarcasm and insults easier, but I don't think we disassociate because of it. Most families have BIG disagreements. We argue, debate, disagree--we use sarcasm, "salty language", and yes--sometimes insults if the debate gets heated.
DTT (IMO) is a very large, dysfunctional family. Sometimes we get along and MANY MANY times we don't. There are people on this site who I'd love to have as neighbors--smart, funny, caring, BUT others....not so much.
But that's life.
Disregard "here" and span out.
Years ago, I was a member of a forum that has long disbanded and which name I have long forgotten. It was after 9/11, and people were very passionate about anything Muslim. Phrases like "kill them all" and "dip your bullets in pigs blood before shooting", "carpet bomb them all" were the norm.
Needless to say, I bowed out quickly, because it was so appalling. Not only did the forum owner encourage such language, moderators did as well.
I didn't get involved in another forum for a while. I joined another one years later and am still a member. Much more oversight and rules to follow. Over the years however, regardless of site, it seems that the rhetoric has gotten more hateful, spiteful. The only thing that changes are the sides, depending on who won the elections.
Discussing politics has always been passionate. I just don't think we lost our humanity like we seem to have lately.
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Old January 27th, 2018, 04:28 AM   #10
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Disregard "here" and span out.
Years ago, I was a member of a forum that has long disbanded and which name I have long forgotten. It was after 9/11, and people were very passionate about anything Muslim. Phrases like "kill them all" and "dip your bullets in pigs blood before shooting", "carpet bomb them all" were the norm.
Needless to say, I bowed out quickly, because it was so appalling. Not only did the forum owner encourage such language, moderators did as well.
I didn't get involved in another forum for a while. I joined another one years later and am still a member. Much more oversight and rules to follow. Over the years however, regardless of site, it seems that the rhetoric has gotten more hateful, spiteful. The only thing that changes are the sides, depending on who won the elections.
Discussing politics has always been passionate. I just don't think we lost our humanity like we seem to have lately.


Lost our humanity? Well, I think you are stretching the truth JUST a bit. AND what do you mean by lately?? If we HAVE lost our humanity, it happened at least 9 years ago--when Barack Obama was elected because that's when things WENT SOUTH quickly.
We certainly didn't agree with ALL of the GWBush policies, including the war, but after 9/11 this nation DID come together, even if for a short time. We held on to our humanity then. We mourned together. We honored our grieving families. We prayed together and tried to support those in need. So, when exactly did we lose our humanity? Who should shoulder the blame??
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