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View Poll Results: Should the president have an unlimited power to grant pardons?
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Old April 29th, 2018, 08:01 AM   #11
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The power was put in place with the idea that it would be exercised by a person like George Washington...

There are situations that arise, that gave us the saying "If that is the law, then the law is an ass".
And I think it was to deal with these situations that the power to pardon is given to the executive. As far as I know every governor has a similar power with regard to violations of state law.
Like any power, you hope it isn't place in the hands of a moron or a despicable character, but that's not what they had in mind.
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Old April 29th, 2018, 09:44 AM   #12
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The complete circle of checks and balances.

The problem being if the Legislative branch doesn't put any checks on the Executive, as we are experiencing now.

It would seem we need another cog in the checks and balances wheel.

This would be a good conversation piece as to what that might be.
Lets take it a step further, the Congress doesn't put any checks on the judicial branch either. And they are, by far, the branch that has over-stepped its power.
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Old May 2nd, 2018, 04:49 AM   #13
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Lets take it a step further, the Congress doesn't put any checks on the judicial branch either. And they are, by far, the branch that has over-stepped its power.
You really think that ludicrous fat crown doesn't overstep his power (at least in intention) five thousand times more? Odd!
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Old May 2nd, 2018, 07:10 PM   #14
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The power to pardon anyone for anything, except impeachment, was given to the president by Article 2, Section 2:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.


I'm puzzled as to why the Founders gave this power to the president. I think it's a bad idea.

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They didn't have a clue that they would elect a criminal for a president, this one would sell pardons under the table for big bucks.
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Old June 10th, 2018, 04:22 PM   #15
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The power to pardon anyone for anything, except impeachment, was given to the president by Article 2, Section 2:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.


I'm puzzled as to why the Founders gave this power to the president. I think it's a bad idea.

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On the surface, it does seem shady. However, it's in place because each branch of government has checks and balances to prevent any of them from being tyrannical. (no, it isn't a perfect system, but it is the best)

I believe it was intended to be used for pardoning people who were imprisoned for their political beliefs and weren't a threat to society. However, if you look at the list of Presidential pardons- it has clearly not been used for that reason alone. But then, people aren't supposed to be thrown in prison for their political beliefs anyway.

Presidential pardons can be used on themselves too. Legally, the only way to get rid of a sitting President is to impeach them- even then, it doesn't mean they're going anywhere, unless the Senate votes to remove them from office.
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The power to pardon anyone for anything, except impeachment, was given to the president by Article 2, Section 2:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.


I'm puzzled as to why the Founders gave this power to the president. I think it's a bad idea.

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The president does not have the power to pardon anyone for anything.

He cannot pardon for crimes that violate state laws. He cannot pardon anyone involved in an impeachment.

Federal Crimes he can pardon anyone for anything.
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Old June 10th, 2018, 09:24 PM   #17
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You really think that ludicrous fat crown doesn't overstep his power (at least in intention) five thousand times more? Odd!
Do you know which president overstepped his powers more than any modern president

That WAS OBAMA.
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