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Old August 28th, 2009, 08:41 PM   #1
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Are you religious enough to defend God?

God is intangible, therefore he is non-existant and unreal. Any protest? Does anyone believe in Santa Clause?



Here, let me add this:



It is impossible for something to be true/real if it cannot be backed Scientifically and/or Mathematically.



God has neither, so he is unreal.
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Old August 28th, 2009, 09:20 PM   #2
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Thats a good point....



I take it your either Athiest or Agnostic?
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Old August 28th, 2009, 10:16 PM   #3
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Atheistic. I prefer logic and reason. No offense.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 09:25 AM   #4
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God is intangible, therefore he is non-existant and unreal. Any protest? Does anyone believe in Santa Clause?


Pi is intangible as well. Do you think it doesn't exist?
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Old August 30th, 2009, 09:41 AM   #5
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Why would an all powerful god need defending?
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Old August 30th, 2009, 11:17 AM   #6
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Pi is intangible as well. Do you think it doesn't exist?


Actually, Pi is tangible. If you didn't already know this, Pi is the ratio of ANY circle's circumference to it 's diameter. I can see that; all I have to do is look at a circle. Pi is very REAL, and, WHAT'S MORE, it's been tested MANY times and has been proven real many times. I can build a circle. I can measure a circle. I can see a circle. I can prove a circle. I can't build god (Not tangibly; I can in my head, but that is intangible). I can't see God. I can't measure God. I can't prove God.



Here is another thing to consider: If you pray to god, does it work every time? If I calculate something using Pi, (Circumference of: Ellipse, Circle. Surface Area of: Sphere, Cone, Cylinder, Ellipsoid, Toris, Revolution. Area of: Ellipse, Circle, Sphere, Cone, Cylinder, Ellipsoid. Trig Functions and Conics.) does it work every time?



The answer to the first Q: NO. The Pope wants a Ferrari......TOO BAD, God won't bring him one, he'll have to buy it or have it donated, because god won't (or rather, CAN'T) do it.



The answer to the second Q: YES. Clearly. There are Cylindrical Buildings (Westin, ATL; Renaissance, DET); Planets and Stars are Spherical; Tires are Circular/ Toris; We use Cylinders in our Engines; Jet/Rocket Engines are Conical; Our orbit is Circular; Hailey's Comet's orbit is Elliptical; Your Steering wheel is Circular; Basketballs, Baseballs, Golfballs, Volleyballs, Soccerballs, Tennisballs, Racketballs, Kickballs, Lacrosse Balls(?), Bowling Balls( and the holes for your fingers), Pinballs, Softballs, Pool Balls, and Ping-Pong Balls are Spherical; Footballs and Birdies are Conical; The Area of the Universe is Ellipsoidal; Bullets, Missiles and Bodies of Jets are Conical; Magnetic Fields are Spherical, the Center of the Universe and Schwarzchild Radii(Black Holes) are calculated using Pi...........hmmmmm.....did I forget ANYTHING? Oh yes, LOTS OF THINGS. And of course all of these thing can be seen or are real(we can't see the Center of the Universe, per se, but we know approximately where it is and that it's there.). I would say that Pi is pretty tangible. It's also a real number in Math. It may be irrational, but it is still real. I can touch Pi on a graph (Unit Circle), Trig Functions have periods equal to a multiple of Pi. It is very tangible, and very usable. An example of something that is intangible in Infinity.....



Let me ask you a question:

If you believe God is real, then do you also believe Santa Clause is real? I would like to know the logic behind God, but not Santa. No one has actually answered my question. I don't understand why either. If god is so obviously real and Santa is so obviously not, then wouldn't it be easy to point out the differences that make god real, but not santa?



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Why would an all powerful god need defending?


Oh.....right. That's why no one wants to defend God when I compare him to Santa Clause. I'll burn in hell eventually.........actually I'll be laughing my ass off at people who think they are going to heaven and that I'm going to hell.
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I was taking your side amarinaccio514. I am an Atheist myself. The point I was making, is that if god were all powerful, he would not need defending, and atheists would not exist.
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I think a "God" probably exists, cept the concept that is portrayed in the major religions is false. I'm agnostic. I wouldn't defend "God" per-se. But I think defending that our universe just happened by coincidence is just as far fetched.
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I don't know anyone who says it happened by chance.
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Actually, Pi is tangible. If you didn't already know this, Pi is the ratio of ANY circle's circumference to it 's diameter. I can see that; all I have to do is look at a circle. Pi is very REAL, and, WHAT'S MORE, it's been tested MANY times and has been proven real many times. I can build a circle. I can measure a circle. I can see a circle. I can prove a circle. I can't build god (Not tangibly; I can in my head, but that is intangible). I can't see God. I can't measure God. I can't prove God.



Here is another thing to consider: If you pray to god, does it work every time? If I calculate something using Pi, (Circumference of: Ellipse, Circle. Surface Area of: Sphere, Cone, Cylinder, Ellipsoid, Toris, Revolution. Area of: Ellipse, Circle, Sphere, Cone, Cylinder, Ellipsoid. Trig Functions and Conics.) does it work every time?



The answer to the first Q: NO. The Pope wants a Ferrari......TOO BAD, God won't bring him one, he'll have to buy it or have it donated, because god won't (or rather, CAN'T) do it.



The answer to the second Q: YES. Clearly. There are Cylindrical Buildings (Westin, ATL; Renaissance, DET); Planets and Stars are Spherical; Tires are Circular/ Toris; We use Cylinders in our Engines; Jet/Rocket Engines are Conical; Our orbit is Circular; Hailey's Comet's orbit is Elliptical; Your Steering wheel is Circular; Basketballs, Baseballs, Golfballs, Volleyballs, Soccerballs, Tennisballs, Racketballs, Kickballs, Lacrosse Balls(?), Bowling Balls( and the holes for your fingers), Pinballs, Softballs, Pool Balls, and Ping-Pong Balls are Spherical; Footballs and Birdies are Conical; The Area of the Universe is Ellipsoidal; Bullets, Missiles and Bodies of Jets are Conical; Magnetic Fields are Spherical, the Center of the Universe and Schwarzchild Radii(Black Holes) are calculated using Pi...........hmmmmm.....did I forget ANYTHING? Oh yes, LOTS OF THINGS. And of course all of these thing can be seen or are real(we can't see the Center of the Universe, per se, but we know approximately where it is and that it's there.). I would say that Pi is pretty tangible. It's also a real number in Math. It may be irrational, but it is still real. I can touch Pi on a graph (Unit Circle), Trig Functions have periods equal to a multiple of Pi. It is very tangible, and very usable. An example of something that is intangible in Infinity.....



Let me ask you a question:

If you believe God is real, then do you also believe Santa Clause is real? I would like to know the logic behind God, but not Santa. No one has actually answered my question. I don't understand why either. If god is so obviously real and Santa is so obviously not, then wouldn't it be easy to point out the differences that make god real, but not santa?







Oh.....right. That's why no one wants to defend God when I compare him to Santa Clause. I'll burn in hell eventually.........actually I'll be laughing my ass off at people who think they are going to heaven and that I'm going to hell.
You don't see pi. Pi is a ratio of two things. You can't see ratios. You can't even see circles. What you see are approximations of circles.

Can you see the Pythagorean Theorem? No. Bu tby inference and reasoning you know it exists. Actually probably by taking math in high school you know it exists.

Virtually every culture believes in god. Very few cultures believe in Santa Claus.

Let me ask you, do you believe in Socrates?
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